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    Ayase Natsume
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    If I get hit by anything from Titan, I just blame lag even though I don't lag on Titan.
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    May I suggest people stop using the term lag for this problem? Connection lag is a completely different thing, this would be better served by using Latency or something like it instead.

    With Lag your game would freeze intermittently until it loaded what is going on, so you'd have very choppy gameplay.

    With Latency (tentative name) your gameplay is fluid, but the server takes more time to register whatever you are doing and delivering information back to you. Example, you see the red circle and move out, but even though you left in time you are still being hit by the attack. However your game never froze or sped up to catch up like it happens with lag but instead the server didn't even know you were out of the danger zone already and thus counted it as a hit.

    YoshiP stated that position (and many other things... question mark?) is updated in a .3 second basis and that they can't apply a faster check to everything because their puny servers wouldn't be able to handle the load BUT they will apply this fix to fights like Titan, so it's already being addressed anyway. XD

    Q2: You have said that in FFXIV: ARR, the character's position is checked by the server once every 0.3 seconds. However there are times where the character receives AoE damage even though the character on the screen is outside of the range. Seems like the information on character's position is not up to date. Is there any plan to make an adjustment to this?
    A2: If we apply faster response times in all areas, the load on the servers will be too much. Therefore, while it will only be for certain areas (for example high-level content and the Wolves' Den), you will be able to notice the faster response times. Please stay tuned!
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    If you have frame lag, upgrade your hardware. If you have connection lag, use a tunneling VPN (ex. WTFast) to improve your connection.

    Just killed Titan 2 times for a couple of LS mates. No problems what so ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    If you have frame lag, upgrade your hardware. If you have connection lag, use a tunneling VPN (ex. WTFast) to improve your connection.

    Just killed Titan 2 times for a couple of LS mates. No problems what so ever.
    That's a lot to ask. We already pay a subscription, they should be creating the improvements and optimization. I know it sounds entitled, but this is one of those moments where I have to disagree. I've memorized Titans rotations, I've created warning macros, I run and anticipate attacks half a second in advance, but lag will still get you, especially if you get complacent. It doesn't seem fair at all that there are players out there that don't have to do any of that because the game is better optimized to their various systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKupo View Post
    That's a lot to ask. We already pay a subscription, they should be creating the improvements and optimization. I know it sounds entitled, but this is one of those moments where I have to disagree. I've memorized Titans rotations, I've created warning macros, I run and anticipate attacks half a second in advance, but lag will still get you, especially if you get complacent. It doesn't seem fair at all that there are players out there that don't have to do any of that because the game is better optimized to their various systems.
    Hey I'm just stating some solutions that I've heard work. Whether or not you want to go the extra mile is up to you. The reality is that better hardware runs the game better and that having a healthy connection gives a better gaming experience. Now, there are things you can do to affect it, and there are things SE can do to modify their game. I'm pretty sure SE has their hands full doing whatever they're doing (creating those optimizations and improvements) so...

    Life isn't fair, it's quite random and indifferent. We all have to deal with what we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    Several times the party just stood in place for 5 seconds or so only to have everything herky jerky back to real time where Titan was on top of me. I was raised and then everything was frozen for another amount of time until it finally caught up and I was dead on the ground again.
    This is the type of lag I get (the rubberbandy freeze and everything catching up and then I'm magically dead half the time) as I get practically 0 server latency due to being very close to NA servers. Believe it or not, resetting my modem resolves the problem completely every single time. I also try not to have any background programs running like bittorrent or anything like that. I believe this type of lag is mostly on the user's end rather than SE's. Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
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    your ISP have problem with connect with the server, had this sometime
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    You forgot the "Yet Another of The Same" in the thread title, OP.
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    Now for the truth:

    Q2: You have said that in FFXIV: ARR, the character's position is checked by the server once every 0.3 seconds. However there are times where the character receives AoE damage even though the character on the screen is outside of the range. Seems like the information on character's position is not up to date. Is there any plan to make an adjustment to this?
    A2: If we apply faster response times in all areas, the load on the servers will be too much. Therefore, while it will only be for certain areas (for example high-level content and the Wolves' Den), you will be able to notice the faster response times. Please stay tuned!
    Might as well add same response to this thread. People have been waiting for this fix since 1.0

    I'll believe it when I see it.
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    Little Focker
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    I'll tell you guys my (truthful) experience with (LAG). I ran of a 10mb DSL connection when I started ARR. Everything was fine and I couldn't understand what all this lag was people were talking about. Thought it was just an excuse myself. UNTIL I had to downgrade to a 1.5mb cable connection from a different company. Now I have 2 daughters and a wife that also get there nightly entertainment from the internet. Netflix Viooz streaming etc. With 2-3 people streaming movies, videos etc.. whenever I'm in a dungeon or grouped up with people, what happens is randomly all action on the screen will FREEZE, except me (I can still move), then 5-8 seconds later action resumes and I have lost aggro and party members are either dead or almost dead. This started as soon as I had to downgrade. So the post about streaming and faster internet is TRUE from my experience. Lag does exist, there are some people that are not making this up. It's very frustrating.
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