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    combat-gladiator slow it down

    combat as it is is a button mash fest for gladiator and im sure for other jobs as well. aside from watching out for a few things to interrupt etc and the occasional cover. for the sake of making these key strokes feel useful..why not slow down the combat a bit but make up for the combo with more effective damage. this whole thing of hitting the keys to get to halone is fine but after the tenth one in under a minute on a fight is a bit ridiculous.
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    Kik Inperi
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    I think more people would be against slowing combat down at all than for it... a lot of people feel it's already quite slow due to the general cooldown on most skills
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    Kana Reith
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Wait till you are in coil trying to do all this, plus keep hate, tank swapping, silence duty, voice calls, watching your HP, keep out of AOE's, Rot, Hollowed Ground, adds, and DPS'ing, while trying to do your job. What you are saying is cake compared to what you will experence as a tank in coil.
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    Ahnya Warthain
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    slow down the combat even further? isnt the combat slow enough has it is already, i didnt knew i was playing with 10 years old with slow reflexes, if the combat in this game goes any slower than it is ill fall asleep in the middle of a fight, you already have 2.5 seconds to choose what to do before your next action do you need what another 2.5 seconds? lets just make the global cooldown 5 seconds so i can take a sip of coffe before i choose what i do next...~

    ps: i have a paladin and i have no issues at all with dodging stuff in coil, keeping aggro or hitting my cc in the right time, actually this game feels to damn easy with this slow has a snail combat... if anything it would need to be faster, lowering the GCD to 1.5 seconds that would be the way to go, like someone above said, more ppl would side to make combat faster than slower...
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    Last edited by Warthain; 11-24-2013 at 11:47 PM.

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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthain View Post
    slow down the combat even further? isnt the combat slow enough has it is already, i didnt knew i was playing with 10 years old with slow reflexes, if the combat in this game goes any slower than it is ill fall asleep in the middle of a fight, you already have 2.5 seconds to choose what to do before your next action do you need what another 2.5 seconds? lets just make the global cooldown 5 seconds so i can take a sip of coffe before i choose what i do next...~

    ps: i have a paladin and i have no issues at all with dodging stuff in coil, keeping aggro or hitting my cc in the right time, actually this game feels to damn easy with this slow has a snail combat... if anything it would need to be faster, lowering the GCD to 1.5 seconds that would be the way to go, like someone above said, more ppl would side to make combat faster than slower...
    OP's point is that you 1, 2, 3, all the time and too frequently, not that the combat is "too fast" and "he needs more time deciding" (there's no decision here, anyway - 1, 2, 3).
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    Jus Tice
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by midnitdragoon View Post
    combat as it is is a button mash fest for gladiator and im sure for other jobs as well. aside from watching out for a few things to interrupt etc and the occasional cover. for the sake of making these key strokes feel useful..why not slow down the combat a bit but make up for the combo with more effective damage. this whole thing of hitting the keys to get to halone is fine but after the tenth one in under a minute on a fight is a bit ridiculous.
    I think the best game for you would be chess
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    What you describe was the original FFXIV:ARR. However, during beta, there were many threads that went on for extended periods of time (for weeks) in multiple phases, that all essentially told the devs to "make it faster".

    And so we have the 2.5s GCD.
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    Sileas Goode
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    WoW had a gcd because every skill had a separate cooldown and the gcd was there to prevent 2 skills being pressed and activated at once (I think anyway, who knows what the WoW developers intended).

    FFXIV 1.x (at least after 1.17) had separate cooldowns but has animation locks in place of gcd. It locked both other skills from being activated and your character's position.

    Now 2.0 removed separate cooldown from most attacks, replaced animation lock for skill activation order with GCD instead but for some reason the animation lock between gcd and non gcd skills stayed? What's even weirder is that they're okay with removing animation position locks. Yes, I know people requested it but it feels kinda halfway there. Frankly I dont know what yoship and co are thinking with these "yes to this but no on that" answers/decisions.
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    OP's point is that you 1, 2, 3, all the time and too frequently, not that the combat is "too fast" and "he needs more time deciding" (there's no decision here, anyway - 1, 2, 3).
    I actually think that was exactly his point. Hell, the thread title is "combat-gladiator slow it down". He said he would rather have one combo do more damage than doing that same combo two, three or four times for the same damage.

    And it isn't just 1, 2, 3. It's 1, 2, 3 with 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 so on and so forth weaved in between them.
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    Vanilla'h Galaxyangel
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    lol slow it down? Combat right now is near turtle speed! Simplistic combos are to blame NOT combat speed. There is literally nothing interesting to do with your hands apart for mashing incredibly boring combo over an over occasionally poping cooldown. If i wasn't a interesting to play SCH then i would be done with this game LONG ago.
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