Concern with Pc Players and Console Players

[MieyCyruuuus]

Now here is the thing, the only people arguing about which is better are the pro coms people. Everyone else just says that they are not required to complete the content and therefore there is no concern.

I'm fine with people arguing that they arent required but im not with people demanding to be included in groups.

[zdub303]

Now here is the thing, the only people arguing about which is better are the pro coms people. Everyone else just says that they are not required to complete the content and therefore there is no concern.

Concern about what though? Whether or it is required to complete the content (in almost every case, very little is actually 'required' to complete MMO content), those groups will continue to require voice comms to join. If he refuses to use voice comms for whatever reasons, that's completely fine, he should just continue to expect that voice comm required pugs won't have him.

He's concerned that PC players are breaking away from console players, the reality is that players who wish to use voice comms will continue to require that and continue to not play with those who don't have it. Statistically, that is probably going to create a loose division between PC and console players. But i've yet to meet a PC player who refuses to play with a console player just because, but plenty of voip only players who refuse to raid with people who dont have voip. That's just the way it is, people are playing the game how they wish to. I guess we're saying the same thing though when I look at it...

[Sixmp]

Words

The divide has been in games for as long as coms have been about. It isn't just limited to consoles. Some people just don't like using them. Some people love them.

[azethoth]

Harsh as it may be. If I, or anyone form a group, and our decided requirement for said group is Voice Chat, and you can't or wont join said Voice Chat, you can't join, period. It doesn't matter if the groups sole purpose is to kill lvl, 1 fluffy bunnies no VC you don't get to join. Your feelings or situation are irrelevant in the matter, and it is neither fair nor unfair because the group has stated their requirements up front; which btw is a thing Yoshi wants us to do. If you cannot or will not meet the requirements of the group go find a group whose requirements you can or are willing to meet. The divide talked about in this thread is self imposed as there are PC and PS3 users who either will or wont join VC.

[Ishmachiah]

The divide talked about in this thread is self imposed as there are PC and PS3 users who either will or wont join VC.

Of all the replies on this topic, this one sentence caused me to fume. I have Mumble, Teamspeak and Ventrilo downloaded on this very pc and I log into them as required. As a deaf person, I have no use or need for voice chat as it still takes me watching a youtube video or another player typing out the specifics in order for me to learn what to do. Some raids I am dropped because of it and some raids they have the patience to tough it out.

That "divide" you speak of is NOT self imposed. People who think and believe like YOU imposed it.

[Ryios]

I require Voice Chat in my raids. It's not my problem PS3 doesn't have an option for teamspeak/vent/mumble etc.

But, if PS3 came out with one that was on PC, I would immediately switch my services to the one that is PS3 compatible so that ps3 players can partake.

Atm our PS3 guys use a laptop, tablet, or phone since Teamspeak is available on android.

[Evangela]

you can find 500 reasons why voice chat is not necessary but they only need one reason to not allow you to join their party.

good luck convincing them why they don't need voice chat in Coil.

[Zumi]

PS4 isn't an open platform so a program like Mumble, vent ect can't be made for PS4 unless someone pays Sony to have the app available on the system.

[Axidrain]

dont u guys have smartphones? just get the app and problem solved. plus. for coil, unless you're really familiar with the mechanics, you're gonna NEED voice chat.

[tymora]

Nothing beats knowing the fight and not needing any prompts at all.

VoIP can be more distracting than just say...using macros.
- Speakers may have an accent and not everyone will understand even if it is the same language. "What did you just say?"
- What the speaker is saying may be out of date if he has worse latency than other people. It is not instant as some would claim.
- Giving instructions over VoIP is transient. Text can be scrolled to and re-read.
- Listeners may not respond as well to speech. I am one of those who automatically filters out chatter in my head when concentrating on something. Your instruction may or may not register.

So...have it but prefer not to use it, and it is definitely not a mandatory part of gameplay.
If a player does not read/listen, it is not the fault of the medium but the fault of the player.