BARD NERF, does it have to be done by removing abilities???

[Warthain]

because i knew already you were going to say that i took the liberty of going and check the boost the crystal gives, and heres the outcome.

10str <- dps stat boosted can you see it now ?
10dex
20vit
20int
10mind
10piety


you were saying ? not sure if ignorant or just plain stupid... but nope just a bard, afraid of the nerf hammer so much you have to compare a dps class to a tank class, not even that, a pseudo tank/dps class(marauder) whatever you want to call it. ill just leave it at that and quit this pointless discussion , because regardless of what you people qq, you are getting nerfed, and with reason... so ill just shout MY MARAUDER GOT THA UBBA DPS and byebye..

[Itachi]

taking away cross class cooldowns ( beside the tp regenerating one) is 100x better than giving cast time to some abilities.

[TirionCrey]

If anything should change on BRD, then it's only the neccesitty of having at least one in your group. Increase MP regen on WHM(possibly by lowering Shroud of Saints CD). Give DRG/SMN a Silence ability. Problem solved. DMG on BRD is fine...people just complained about it cause it's the easiest class to play and achieve high DPS. But they are not at the top so a nerf is just stupid.

[viion]

Bard is only strong due to mobility, nothing else. When mobility is taken out of the equation, they're by far not the highest DPS, probably 3rd below Monk and Black Mage (imo, im not sure about smn/lnc that well)

In my opinion, a nerf is not needed, and some nerfs will completely kill the class
- Remove invigorate, class dead
- Remove Internal Release, DPS be probably lower than a pld lol be broken

Blood for Blood I can get by with being removed, its good but its not going to kill the class. Since its just like having another Raging Strikes.

I expect something along the lines of:
- Internal Release down to 10% when subclassed
- Straight Shot's additional affect only gives the 10% when the skill is on Crit Hit state (right now you can have constant 10% up)

These only two I can think of that could reduce the overall DPS, but not completely kill it. Your Crit would go down from ~45 to ~35 overall and the straight shot benefit would be more RNG.

[Highlanderx]

They could be going back to how Bard was in the Beta and have it come off of Conjurer. So its back to being more of a support DPS class.

Personally I think they should have left it that way originally , instead of giving into fan demand for a mostly DPS archer. And if they wanted to give into fan demand they should have pushed Bard back until the 2nd jobs were released for the other classes and had the Archer initial job be Ranger or something.

Also they are re-balancing cross-class skills for all jobs not just Bard. I hope they make Esuna and both Sleep spells cross-class.

[whoopeeragon]

They could be going back to how Bard was in the Beta and have it come off of Conjurer. So its back to being more of a support DPS class.

Personally I think they should have left it that way originally , instead of giving into fan demand for a mostly DPS archer. And if they wanted to give into fan demand they should have pushed Bard back until the 2nd jobs were released for the other classes and had the Archer initial job be Ranger or something.

If the job system was entirely brand new, that would have worked. But remember, the job system was branched off from 1.0, and as BRD was already established there, they can't remove it from the job selections.

[Ryihito]

As long as we get access to Conjurer skills again then I don't really mind.

[Escadora]

No, I don't want to level a CNJ. No thank you.

[Ryihito]

No, I don't want to level a CNJ. No thank you.

And I didn't want to level as a Pugilist but I still had to. Don't be lazy.

[Lecreuset]

140-150 potency attacks though except the dots though which take 18 seconds to fully deal total damage. Blood letters was said to be parsed like 4th of overall damage.

But w/e happens, happens. Invested too much already on bard lol