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  1. #11
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    Warthain's Avatar
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    Ahnya Warthain
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    Lancer Lv 50
    +50% attack power is not 50% more damage, and warriors with defiance up makes them do -25% damage, and i dont see any other buff they can pop to increase their dps, they can however decrease slashing resistance by 10% ... they better have 5 more damage in their weapons has they are already losing 25% of their damage to tank for you.

    berserker (+50% attack power) and internal release(20% crit) thats the only buffs available to warriors.
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    Last edited by Warthain; 11-24-2013 at 07:58 PM.

  2. #12
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    Ahnya Warthain
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 50
    double post ops
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  3. #13
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Warthain View Post
    +50% attack power is not 50% more damage, and warriors with defiance up makes them do -25% damage, and i dont see any other buff they can pop to increase their dps, they can however decrease slashing resistance by 10% ... they better have 5 more damage in their weapons has they are already losing 25% of their damage to tank for you.

    berserker (+50% attack power) and internal release(20% crit) thats the only buffs available to warriors.
    Reading comprehension is rare these days. WHERE IN THAT POST DID I WRITE WARRIOR?
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  4. #14
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    Ahnya Warthain
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    Lancer Lv 50
    yeah because you see plenty of marauders running around in endgame doing dps in dungeons maybe ... if we go by your logic, then lets compare bard dps to every non specialized class, because they can get the most buffs out of all classes, but still doing less damage than having the crystal ON... the game isnt being balanced so you can farm mobs with pseudo dps builds, the game is being balanced so you can run endgame content on same level has other classes of the same role. if your going to bring up the "marauder" compare it to the "duelist" since their on the same role, if you want to talk about the bard, then compare it to the dragoon, monk, black mage and the summoner ... you dont go around comparing the lancer pugilist thaumaturge and the arcanist...

    but to make you happy ill compare the bard to the "marauder" and tell even if the marauder weapon has 5 more damage, even if they get all the buffs of every dps class, they will still losing a ton of dps compared to the bard, BECAUSE, the job crystal alone bumps up your stats a ton!
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    Last edited by Warthain; 11-24-2013 at 08:12 PM.

  5. #15
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    In case you didn't notice, not every class boosts an attacking stat when you equip a soul crystal. I'm quite glad I don't see people using marauder and rather have them wonder what I'm doing to do so much damage. Not sure if ignorant or stupid...
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  6. #16
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    Ahnya Warthain
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    Lancer Lv 50
    because i knew already you were going to say that i took the liberty of going and check the boost the crystal gives, and heres the outcome.

    10str <- dps stat boosted can you see it now ?
    10dex
    20vit
    20int
    10mind
    10piety


    you were saying ? not sure if ignorant or just plain stupid... but nope just a bard, afraid of the nerf hammer so much you have to compare a dps class to a tank class, not even that, a pseudo tank/dps class(marauder) whatever you want to call it. ill just leave it at that and quit this pointless discussion , because regardless of what you people qq, you are getting nerfed, and with reason... so ill just shout MY MARAUDER GOT THA UBBA DPS and byebye..
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    Last edited by Warthain; 11-24-2013 at 08:25 PM.

  7. #17
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    Kaiser Dragon
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    taking away cross class cooldowns ( beside the tp regenerating one) is 100x better than giving cast time to some abilities.
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  8. #18
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    Fara Venator
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    In case you didn't notice, not every class boosts an attacking stat when you equip a soul crystal. I'm quite glad I don't see people using marauder and rather have them wonder what I'm doing to do so much damage. Not sure if ignorant or stupid...
    Are you serious? Please tell me you're kidding
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  9. #19
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    Virtual On
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    You do know BfB is only a 5% DPS increase, right?

    And, no.

    The issue has always been their ease of use, mobility, utility, combined with their burst DPS and overall DPS. It has nothing to do with enmity.

    They were seen as top DPS prior because all buffs generate enmity, and they use more than other jobs. It's a flat amount, so when everyone was less-geared it was more apparent.

    Now it's known they're not top DPS, but something is still wrong.
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  10. #20
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    Than Mazus
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Now it's known they're not top DPS, but something is still wrong.
    "Bard is not top DPS, so we should nerf it further from the top"
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