Sadly however optimal you may perform your DPS rotation, same gear Paladin in Sword Oath will still clear your floor EVERY time. What warriors have is only burst, so pick the right situation where burst is needed.

Sadly however optimal you may perform your DPS rotation, same gear Paladin in Sword Oath will still clear your floor EVERY time. What warriors have is only burst, so pick the right situation where burst is needed.

You couldn't be more wrong. Same geared PLD in Sword Oath vs WAR not in Defiance we dumpser the PLD. Higher Potency in the combo alone should show that to you. I'm sitting in almost full iLvL 90 (only missing the legs and I have the iLvL 80 relic) gear with the crafted accessories and my WAR does 220 DPS sustained with Defiance off. Show me a PLD that can do that...
I have about -30 STR on my PLD vs my WAR and still only hit about 160 sustained DPS on PLD in Sword Oath...
As for WAR DPS rotation, most of what people have said here is true.
Heavy Swing > Maim > Storm's Eye > Fracture ... repeat steps 1-3 over and refresh Fracture when it falls off. If/when you are far enough behind the tank in hate, you can throw in alternating Butcher's Block combo with Storm's Eye combo until you start creeping back up on the MT. Drop Fracture if you are starting to run out of TP, and use all your damage cooldowns when they are available. DO NOT ever go into Defiance, it is a direct DPS drop with everything you do in there compared to just staying out of it and doing a normal rotation.
Last edited by EpicEmpyrean; 11-25-2013 at 08:16 PM.

Aren't striking dummies very different than dungeon mobs or bosses?
It's honestly tough to tell. People always say PLD > WAR, WAR > PLD or PLD = WAR in terms of dps.
>.> They both can switch to a "DPS" role. Its there for when the OT doesn't need to actually OT.

Apart from the fact that actual bosses tend to move/become immune/vanish/require target switching they are absolutely no different to Striking Dummies. For the record, level 1 Striking Dummies are also no different to level 50 Striking Dummies except for the accuracy required to hit them.

So you will do the same dmg against a lv 1 dummy as to a 50 dummy?Apart from the fact that actual bosses tend to move/become immune/vanish/require target switching they are absolutely no different to Striking Dummies. For the record, level 1 Striking Dummies are also no different to level 50 Striking Dummies except for the accuracy required to hit them.
Thanks for the info. I am learning something new today.![]()
Use Inner Release on cooldown for 21% more benefit than waiting for Berserk. Inner Release will be used in concert Berserk every 180s because the cooldowns will naturally align.
Rather amusingly, you are both wrong. Math and parses have both shown that PLD (Sword Oath) and WAR (non-Defiance) DPS are effectively identical. This is, as I have said too many times now, by design. Giving one a non-tanking DPS advantage pigeonholes it into secondary tank for the sake of efficiency.
From the OP i'm guessing they have a PLD MT and WAR OT, when exactly does a PLD in sword oath have anything to do with the OP's question?

Are paladins able to crit hits for close to 600 damage? I think not
Last edited by mr_wazzabi; 11-27-2013 at 12:57 PM.
Melee Elezen FTW!!!
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