Thread: 2.0 WAR tanking in end game content. Is it worth it?

It seems to me that in 2.1 the actual tank differences will be negligible. Yes, the way it's looking Paladins will require less healing over an entire fight, but Warriors will have more control over their mitigation in small increments. Paladins will be easier to use because their CD's last longer and are (slightly) more fire and forget, Warriors will need to work a (tiny) bit harder in order to time IB with incoming damage. In return, Warriors can maximize their mitigation when they need to rather then roll on blanket CD's.

It's like driving a manual vs. driving an automatic. They both do about the same thing, but the former allows more room for maximizing efficiency while at the same time being more unforgiving in regards to human error.

Originally Posted by FallenWings

I queue up for Titan HM using the Duty Finder and was ready to have a fun and exciting challenge since it was my first Titan HM run. Being someone who enjoys playing WAR and wanting to challenge myself (knowing full well the difficulties a 2.0 WAR has in Titan HM) I asked politely if I could try MT for the first attempt. The first response that I got was "Ok, bye". Wow, really? ... ... Is it because I'm a WAR?

The answer to this is both yes and no.

"wanting to challenge myself" - you must realize, it's not just yourself you are challenging.
You are challenging the healers, and by extension everyone else in the group. (ESPECIALLY if you're under-geared)

So while this would be totally fine if you were with a group of friends, it's seen as rude in DF.
You have to realize that it's likely that most of the people in DF have attempted Titan(HM) HUNDREDS of times by now.
They don't want to be challenged. They just want to get it over with.
That doesn't justify their behavior when they act like a^%holes, but hopefully it explains WHY they sometimes act like a^%holes.

If you were in full Darklight with Garuda's Axe AND already had experience with the fight... then there would be much less reason for them to scoff when you asked to MT.

The WAR bias is strong. I sat there and watched this shout group looking for a tank for quite some time while I was crafting. After a while, I figure.. hell why not help some folks out since I have done this fight more times then I can count. I swapped gear, put on defiance. Then I join the group... I get told instantly by the guy in the zone, looking at my relic and 8k HP that "WAR cant tank titan, and they were not going to carry me, re-role pally". I was then kicked from the group.

I am not sure where the bias came from, but it is absolutely there. It will get better... and there are very few good WAR's in myth/allegan that we should be in demand unless the FoTM'ers roll war because we become unbalanced.

Just stick it out, as a warrior I've recieved alot of flak and was denied the previlage of tanking groups on more than one occasion. But guess what, I'm now on T5 as a warrior and can tank wp speed runs better than plds if I have a good healer with me. Accomplishing all of that as a warrior instead of a facerolling pld feels alot more rewarding and it earns people's respect and praise. So learn your class now while we're "underpowered" and once 2.1 comes around you will be one of the best tanks around and ignore the ignorant asses like the ones i mentioned in my first sentence.