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  1. #1
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    FallenWings's Avatar
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80

    2.0 WAR tanking in end game content. Is it worth it?

    I queue up for Titan HM using the Duty Finder and was ready to have a fun and exciting challenge since it was my first Titan HM run. Being someone who enjoys playing WAR and wanting to challenge myself (knowing full well the difficulties a 2.0 WAR has in Titan HM) I asked politely if I could try MT for the first attempt. The first response that I got was "Ok, bye". Wow, really? I know that some people might have had bad experiences with WAR MT but... really? Not wanting to start an argument I just accepted it and let the other tank (PLD) MT. We were doing pretty well I might say and got up to the heart stage. I messed up and got hit by a landslide and flew right off. We failed to kill the heart in time and wiped. Everyone seemed a bit annoyed but I was ready to try again with a positive attitude.Unfortunately I was belittled for failing to dodge a landslide(this is somewhat fair as it was my fault for getting hit) and was blamed for the failure of the heart stage. Lets be honest here, I highly doubt a WAR can provide the necessary DPS needed to kill the heart as it was about 1/4th left before Titan romped us. But that's beside the point. What happened was that the person who acted like a jerk instantly left prompting everyone else to leave. As you probably figured out, this left a bad taste in mouth which prompts the question; Is everyone who DF end game content like this? Is it because I'm a WAR?

    Have any of you other WARs experienced something similiar to this?
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    While I'm not a WAR, I have seen such behavior many times in PUG and Duty Finder groups.

    I think it is partially because of being a WAR and the class currently being underpowered as a tank so a lot of people will be jerks and treat WAR's like second class citizens. This is why the changes proposed in patch 2.1 are coming, to bring WAR's equal to PLD and stop the preferential treatment that has been going on. Whether the changes will do this correctly is obviously a heated debate at the moment.

    However I think the main factor is that often time people in PUG's and DF groups can just straight up be immature, rude and jerks. Often tossing blame around and rage quitting for little to no reason and in my experience the problems tend to be a result of their own incompetencies.

    If you like playing WAR I would say keep at it. Jerks will be jerks and with the incoming changes, hopefully the disparity between tanking classes will be properly addressed.
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    M'aqaqa Qimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Yes its because you are a WAR.
    This said people on the DF shouldnt expect to win and everyone should be allowed to get some experience on the fight.
    You need to gear yourself well (full darklight would be ideal) and find/make a party that is willing to take a WAR.
    One experienced healer would help a lot.
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    ExarKun007's Avatar
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    Exxar Kun
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Generally the landslide won't be on you unless the dps screwed up and put it on you.
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    TaneshimaPopura's Avatar
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    Taneshima Popura
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    Carbuncle
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Erm, under normal circumstances the Tanking tank will never get Landslided unless some one was standing where you were and in that case they are likely to get hit by Rock Buster afterwards. DF in Japan the tanks always check each other out, then decide, no fuss no drama only kills. Thus far Titan on DF with Japanese is at around 70-80% clear rate.

    I queue as Paladin and Warrior alternately and sometimes, a weaker tank comes in and wants to MT most of the folks won't go against it, since I can DPS and when he does drop I can pick it up.

    Hence if you want to play with a more mature crowd, go with the Japanese, but just make sure you are at least "fit" for the role... Don't go coming in trying to tank with full AF1 gear and GC 44s.
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Another option is, if you haven't already, find a group of people that you jive with and join their FC.
    A good FC with mature players that you get along with is a huge boon when doing high level content.

    So maybe try finding groups for things via shout instead of DF, it may take longer but if you keep your eyes open you can usually find a group looking for something you may want to do.
    Eventually you'll run into some people that you work well with and when you do ask them about their FC and whether or not they would consider letting you join.

    Anyways, best of luck to you and I hope you find a good group of people to play with.
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    Necaust Xi
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    I queue up for Titan HM using the Duty Finder
    Have any of you other WARs experienced something similiar to this?


    Your problem is the duty finder.

    Expect antisocial kiddies.

    Intelligent sarcasm is your weapon.

    Youtube your best moments.
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    Grembo Zavia
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    When I was going in DF for my WAR relic (fun times) I had a few priceless moments.

    The most priceless one was pairing up with a 3.9k HP PLD, full AF guess he was a STR build. Think I was sitting at just over 7k hp at the time (Full DL + Garuda's Scream) ....see if you guys can guess who the healers wanted as MT?

    After we wiped because the poor guy couldn't even hold aggro I politely asked if I was ok to MT now but the healers had a already left
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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Marauder Lv 50
    WAR will be the go to Tank in 2.1, so just stick it out.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 11-25-2013 at 06:29 AM.


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    Zoomie Vi
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    Brynhildr
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    On a side note. You REALLY REALLY need to replace your chest piece. Really x3 if you want to tank Titan.

    I realize the DL chest looks abysmal, I couldn't stand it, but tanking Titan will be the hardest hitting boss you've ever tanked and you will want to be ready.
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