New items not an ilvl upgrade? Then at least they should be true sidegrade!

[Zumi]

Horizontal progression gear is an oxymoron as in it doesn't exist. There has to be some reason to go after new gear as in it has to be better in some way even if only very slightly.

[SinisterJoint]

Im stoked that its quick gear upgrades for my alt jobs

[chocomaid]

FFXIV may as well release new raids/dungeons with just a single long corridor with no detail whatsoever, with cardboard boxes piled up as bosses. It's not like it actually matters when I'm getting better, more leet gear.

/sarcasm

[Kincard]

You people that insult others that care about the gear always seem to miss the point because of some kind of latent borderline personality disorder or something. They're not saying new content isn't cool, they're saying none of their hardcore (in b4 "lol FFXIV hardcore git gud scrub") playerbase going to want to do it more than once or twice and go then back to canceling their account if there's no gameplay reason to do it. Anybody who played FFXI knows exactly what I'm talking about if I mention the words "Garrison" or "Expeditionary Force". While power creep is never something I've liked in MMOs, actually having power creep, and then creating new content going backwards on that power creep is just...stupid business design.

The people with all their Allagan and Myth stuff will have fun doing CT once or twice, then go back to having nothing to do, unless they want to obsessively gear their tertiary and quaternary etc jobs. That's a pretty easy way to bleed subs.

On a personal level I guess I can thank SE for valuing an numbers addict's free time more than their own wallets though, I suppose.

[DSN]

or we could wait until things are actually released and we have finalized items, numbers, etc before we start complaining

[Kincard]

I don't always wait for my dog to crap on the rug before I figure out training him or taking him for a walk might be a good idea. Maybe some people like the smell though, and I'm strangely cool with that.

[DSN]

I don't always wait for my dog to crap on the rug

but when you do you drink dos eques?

[Felis]

At least old items get a ilevel upgrade

[Tribunus]

Most people are already flocking towards BiS items right now. It is not very hard to get Allagan pieces and mythology tomes right now.

Well of course they are its what vertical progression is all about, complete the content that awards the best gear.

Again? Is there an entire sub-set of players that doesn't find actual content relevant unless it provides better gear?

I just don't understand this...

Everyone enjoys the content they choose to do, but there are some who also enjoy progressing their own characters in a meaningful way such as receiving gear that allows them to do their jobs better by beating the content.

[Okunbunu]

I completely 100% agree but the development team took the insanely easy way out to "balance" the game by creating linear/vertical stats... not to mention making only 1-3 stats useful for each job.