Petition: Add A Support Role To The Game.

[Ryans]

the game would have to be fully redesigned again to get what the OP truly wants out of a support class. im afraid for ffxiv support is just something that will be added to the base roles already in the game.

Even with the minimum amount of imagination you could fit a true support role into the current game. The only thing they'd have to change it how intensive the boss fights are to justify taking a support class over a pure DD. Make them have party wide buffs like raging strikes or internal release that make burn phases easier to handle for example. They could even split it between having a support role that specializes in increasing defenses of the party and one to increase the offensive capabilities. If I can think of this in 2 minutes, a game designer can create a functional support role for this game.

[Mohamed]

I don't really think that the number of BRDs outweighs the combined sum of 4 other DPS jobs but you do pose a valid concern. Instead of preventing another DPS from joining I've instead given a team-based priority suggestion:

4-Man:
1) TNK, HLR, DPS, HYB/SPR
2) TNK, HLR, DPS, DPS

8-Man:
1) TNK, TNK, HLR, HLR, DPS, DPS, HYB/SPR, HYB/SPR
2) TNK, TNK, HLR, HLR, DPS, DPS, DPS, HYB/SPR
3) TNK, TNK, HLR, HLR, DPS, DPS, DPS, DPS
4) TNK, TNK, HLR, HLR, DPS, HYB/SPR, HYB/SPR, HYB/SPR

This way a party is always prioritized to have a HYB/SPR but if one isn't available it would go to the next available DPS. For 8 mans I've included the possibility that there would be more HYB/SPR players LFP than DPS players so that a team could still be formed.

Bingo. That's all it really needs.

[Tweedle_dee]

Ummm this thread is really useless don't you think since Yoshi said "We want to have two of each job type in a raid in future content" when we only have three. Soooo isn't making a petition to add a support role pointless?

[ReplicaX]

Even with the minimum amount of imagination you could fit a true support role into the current game.

Imagination VS Reality

Dev Time = $$$

SE will weight if its worth it readjusting and rebalancing Battle mechanics and its content. On top of its already projected/planned future content.

[amnie]

Ummm this thread is really useless don't you think since Yoshi said "We want to have two of each job type in a raid in future content" when we only have three. Soooo isn't making a petition to add a support role pointless?

so essentially... even though the devs always say they want to listen to their playerbase.. we should not tell them what we want?

I've always loved playing supporter. I am already annoyed at how split up the supporting skills are in other games. I had high hopes for ARR to give me back a true supporter.

and then I saw what they did to the bard. I still have a lot of fun with the bard, but that's because I also enjoy ranged dps.

that doesn't change that I want a .real. support class, though.

[Nahara]

so essentially... even though the devs always say they want to listen to their playerbase.. we should not tell them what we want?

There's a very distinct difference between a reasonable request and an unreasonable one.

Dyable gear and less trash can armor are reasonable requests. Asking to rebuild the Duty Finder and the restructuring of pretty much every fight in the game around a new role classification because people don't want too many Bards in their party is an unreasonable request.

I'm sure you liked playing support. I'm not knocking people who do like playing support. A full support class just doesn't work in a game where combat is designed around the trinity of Tank-Healer-DD.

[amnie]

There's a very distinct difference between a reasonable request and an unreasonable one.

Dyable gear and less trash can armor are reasonable requests. Asking to rebuild the Duty Finder and the restructuring of pretty much every fight in the game around a new role classification because people don't want too many Bards in their party is an unreasonable request.

I'm sure you liked playing support. I'm not knocking people who do like playing support. A full support class just doesn't work in a game where combat is designed around the trinity of Tank-Healer-DD.

but there's a difference between asking for a duty finder rebuilt and a supporter class added. a support class essentially still works as a DPS (or they can technically do all, like the Captain in LOTRO. which I mentioned on the first page)

I also personally didn't say anything about redefining Bard (though I do think they need a different Limit Break)

you know what is unreasonable? thinking the game has to be rebuilt for a supporter class/role.
such is not the case.

[koikitty]

Bard is a support role...

[Phai]

Bard is a support role...

Yoshi dont agree whit u, but i asume u know better..

[koikitty]

I dont , im totally new to FF14. My past mmorpg experienced have always told me if you help improve the group - you are support. Any hybrid that can increase the power in a secondary ability is support. Like whm protect, stone skin and etc. Bard songs.
I am still learning, I have no idea what Yoshi considers anything. Im sure its just not one man pulling the strings tho.