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  1. #111
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    If the only endgame content that "counts" is the one that drops the best gear, FFXIV will never have a lot of endgame content.
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  2. #112
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    So gear isn't content now?
    Gear is a reward for the content you did. It's not actual content. Gear can get one motivated to do said content ( even if it's bad or not an upgrade even), outside of that gear is only a reward. Nothing more.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 11-24-2013 at 12:54 AM.

  3. #113
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    Klynwilf Spellrifter
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I'm a coil raider and looking forward to CT and new dungeons.

    Heck, I collected all the titan books even though they were not "upgrades".

    So yeah, whats the problem?

    Maybe I need to stop trying to have fun. Maybe I should focus purely on upgrades.
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    Forum Lurker Extraordinaire.
    Like a good stalker, I'm always there.

  4. #114
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    Kak Alexander
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    Hyperion
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I laughed too. Absolutely hilarious. For vanity he says...cmon...what a joke. At least have items that we can turn into crafted items in there to make it somewhat viable.
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  5. #115
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    Of course I'm thinking about the content. The gear is relevant to that--because if the new dungeons have a recommended gearing level of AF and the Crystal Tower has a recommended gear level of 55... these dungeons cannot possibly be difficult and anyone who is wearing Relic+1/AF2/Allagan or even Primal+Darklight is going to blast through them without a shred of a challenge.

    The content is completely, totally, absolutely wholly irrelevant if it's not challenging.
    Except that this only applies if you play 1 class. While it does suck that if your main is ahed of the content progression wise, the game let's us play all classes.

    I plan on doing all of it on pld, my main, for fun. Then doing it with mnk blm and war for gear.

    I will agree that yoshis response was ... poor
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  6. #116
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    Ajax Sol
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Most people playing the game haven't even reached level 50 let alone entered BC. There is a definite gap between the item level 60/70 content and the item level 90 content. SE is doing the smart thing and filling that gap that will help the vast majority of players that have still yet to get to that point.

    Their plan is to add on to both CT and BC every other update. It's only going to be a few battles with this release, not the whole Crystal tower. 2.3 will have additional battles which will most likely be more challenging than the new battles that will be added in the new BC turns released in 2.2.
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  7. #117
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    Lilena Talem
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    Behemoth
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    Yeah... the pvp better be good cuz this whole crystal tower thing is a nail in the coffin for me.
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  8. #118
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    Kamara Barrett
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Genz View Post
    It wouldn't have been a problem if the equipments didn't follow a dumb "vertical progression".
    But that would mean they'd have had to have made a deep and involving battle system. Which would then have allowed for a wide variety of "horizontal gear progression", resulting in much more character/job customization and less gear being made obsolete in the long run.



    But that'll never happen.
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  9. #119
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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthetic View Post
    these dungeons cannot possibly be difficult and anyone who is wearing Relic+1/AF2/Allagan or even Primal+Darklight is going to blast through them without a shred of a challenge.

    The content is completely, totally, absolutely wholly irrelevant if it's not challenging.
    Making it just another Castrum Meridianum and we know how fun and long that content lasted.
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  10. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Trunks View Post
    Things like good, balanced PvP, and challenging, mid-to-large-scale raids. Right now the only thing that makes FF unique is that it's really pretty and has amazing music. That's not enough, in itself, to maintain high retention.
    Funny because this game's number only go up for now after almost 3 months ? Aw, thats right, it just go up. And with 2.1 comin they re gonna most likely gain another bunch of customers, not countin the fact that the "give this key to your friend so he can try it for 7 days" thing isn't even started.

    People are just a sad bunch of sad balls always claimin that dark days will be comin, even if facts are purely contradictory to their thoughts. Keep 'em comin.
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