Why all the whining?

[Vonericson]

I recently left a popular mmo thats been butchered because of whiners to come here and frankly I'm a little concerned. Looking through the forums I see virtually nothing but qq and people spitting out "nerf this" "nerf that" "nerf nerf nerf" and my question is, why the hell would anyone want 1 of only 2 tanking classes nerfed? This is the most asinine request ever. I very much enjoy this game just the way it is and apparently so do a lot of others. There is no valid reason that a class other than a dps should ever be "nerfed" and thats only if tanks are failing to keep hate off of them. Please, if you like shortages of tanks/healers, classes being constantly changed so you have to re-learn it every couple of months, tanks being one-shotted, healers that cant keep up, constant wipes and insane repair bills, do everyone a favor and go back to WoW.

[mythicrose]

Welcome to the world of MMOs. Enjoy (or not) your stay in FFXIV.

[Nayto]

People don't like change, it's in human nature. So much for being adaptive creatures huh?

[PArcher]

FotM people in a nutshell.

Also, ego problems...many PAL I run into think they're the most important people in the game, so having to share tanking is equal to a huge nerf...

[DartFx]

FotM people in a nutshell.

Also, ego problems...many PAL I run into think they're the most important people in the game, so having to share tanking is equal to a huge nerf...

This. I actually used Duty Finder to do Titan HM for the giggles and some PLD who barely broke 4.5k hp immediately assumed he was going to MT and rushed titan before I even had the chance to tell him if he would like to MT for the experience. Mind you, in my gear and food I have 7.7k HP. I just love it how PLDs assume they own the place xD.
So, what did i do you ask? Simple. I took hate from him and watched him Q.Q his way to half of his emnity bar.

[Krystalynn]

FotM people in a nutshell.

Also, ego problems...many PAL I run into think they're the most important people in the game, so having to share tanking is equal to a huge nerf...

Having to share tanking? Not a nerf. Being replaced as MTs and possibly not brought along because we do less damage and why not just bring another Warrior? Definitely a nerf. We'll just have to see. Not that any of you Warriors give a fuck.

[Leiron]

Having to share tanking? Not a nerf. Being replaced as MTs and possibly not brought along because we do less damage and why not just bring another Warrior? Definitely a nerf. We'll just have to see. Not that any of you Warriors give a fuck.

Actually, you do more damage than the Warrior if a Warrior has applied SE.
Evenw ithout SE, the amount of damage a Warrior does compared to a Paladin is only greater by an insignificant amount and is nothing to be worrying over.
Paladin mitigation is also more consistent.

[ReiszRie]

Actually, you do more damage than the Warrior if a Warrior has applied SE.
Evenw ithout SE, the amount of damage a Warrior does compared to a Paladin is only greater by an insignificant amount and is nothing to be worrying over.
Paladin mitigation is also more consistent.

parsed DPS report on training dummies shows a WAR dealing approximately 18-20% more DPS.

With the 2.1 WAR buff, effective HP for both PLD and WAR is roughly equal, the only advantage for a PLD will be its utility skills and the block from shields

[Leiron]

parsed DPS report on training dummies shows a WAR dealing approximately 18-20% more DPS.

False, the parse that I have seen has shown that the difference is in the single digit percentile.
Roughly 220 to approximately 210 DPS.
I will need to find it for you but the DPS reports on training dummies have not shown anything close to such a disparity.

This assumes, however, that people understand how to play a class and not consume invisible GCD's poorly.

I.e. Not using SW and CoS before RoH.

Furthermore, mathematical data provided by Kitru has also further illustrated that the DPS advantage a WAR possesses is around 6%, which is about 10 to 20 more DPS in the current BIS slots.
In Tank stance, a Paladin tends to do slightly more due to the fact that a WAR has a larger damage debuff (25% which lowers their DPS by 33% which cannot be made up for), vs a Paladins 20% (losing 25% of their DPS by STorm's edge means their damage will be igher thana WAR in defiance.)

The myth of WAR doing significantly more damage than a PLD is false.

With the 2.1 WAR buff, effective HP for both PLD and WAR is roughly equal, the only advantage for a PLD will be its utility skills and the block from shields

False, the current eHP looking at purely the amount of health is equal for a WAR in Defiance and a PLD in Shield Oath.
PLD still receives a 25% heal buff due to 20% mitigation vs a WAR's current 15%; and 20% in the patch. So they will still be less squishy.
The patch will bring thee eHP of a WAR to be much more equal with a PLD when cooldown's are utilized.

[Little_Ifrit]

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