Relics , are not relices anymore

[Babydoll]

Why you people keep bringing expectations from other games? It's pretty obvious that it'll only lead to disappointment.
Worse when the disappointment stems from "half of the server" (like OP's complain) having it too.

Now that I've read it again, her complaint doesn't even makes sense. +1 Relic will be as good than Allagan. If it's about the item, having a +1 before it doesn't means it isn't the Curtana anymore.

Why? Because the producer of the game said that this game will bring the fantasy back in final fantasy and he claimed that he will bring the series back to its roots.

Yeah I can see allagan being better then +1 ok thats fine but as long as in the end he stays true to his word and legendary(which is meant to be relic weapons that are slowly upgraded through patches) will be the best.

I mean I'm sure they will upgrade our relics slowly but atm for end game SE probably wants ppl to keep running t1-5 , so yeah it makes sense for allagan to be better...for now

[Koren_Origins]

Are you serious? Its not about being special or whatever....its about SE gimping the meaning behind the relic weapons. In previous FF (not just ffxi) relics were the most difficult to get yet most rewarding.

If that's your argument about what a relic is, then they fit the definition perfectly. It is a lengthy quest that gives one of the most powerful weapons in the game requiring the completion of the story, five boss monsters, and the involvement of two high level crafters (one to make the base weapon and one to meld the materia.)

And in previous FF, the ultimate weapons weren't always difficult to get. FF tactics you stole or found them on the maps, FF7 most were sitting around waiting to be picked up (hell Tifa's comes from a vending machine,) FF8 were all crafted, some of FF4 came from boss monsters, some bought and some just found while the remake was ultimate equipment from rare drops from basic monsters. One of the better weapons in FF6 Atma/Ultima weapon could be found before the World of Ruin.

[NyssaElf]

If that's your argument about what a relic is, then they fit the definition perfectly. It is a lengthy quest that gives one of the most powerful weapons in the game requiring the completion of the story, five boss monsters, and the involvement of two high level crafters (one to make the base weapon and one to meld the materia.)

And in previous FF, the ultimate weapons weren't always difficult to get. FF tactics you stole or found them on the maps, FF7 most were sitting around waiting to be picked up (hell Tifa's comes from a vending machine,) FF8 were all crafted, some of FF4 came from boss monsters, some bought and some just found while the remake was ultimate equipment from rare drops from basic monsters. One of the better weapons in FF6 Atma/Ultima weapon could be found before the World of Ruin.

Just for the record I would rather have this then a RNG system. Cause it goes back to RNG, I'm going to be screwed

[Belzeboss9]

I think is all about casual vs hardcore player. You can get relic +1 just with tomes it takes 3 weeks. But hardcore players can go to extreme primals and get it much faster.

[Otoha]

It must be difficult to get and no other weapon is greater than them..

Half of our ppl in my server have relicS and Allagan is better atm and moogle google is going to be better soon ...

You are wrong in every way.

1. Relics must not be anything you say they should.

2. Relic and Allagan weapons are same ilvl for now.

3. How will ilvl 80 moogle weapons ever be better than one you can make ilvl 90?

[Babydoll]

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Yes exactly, they were the end of the end of the game. If that makes sense lol. Have you tried getting the hardest to get weapons in ff12? That stuff was hard haha especially done when under leveled. Or in FFX, remember lulus? Omg I never had to focus so hard to dodge the lighting that many times in a row haha. All the ultimate weapons in FFX were fun but challenging to get and were so worth it!

That is how it should be. Which is why I think its ok for se to let us upgrade them slowly along the way until we get the legendary version or whatever name they choose in the end. They should be obtained from quests/fights along the way and not some jokey RNG system.

[rtpsoulx]

SE will probably make a retarded hard quest to make relics +2,3,4 ect at some point instead of just needing myth tomes. Pretty sure their not gonna just leave it like this...hopefully anyway *optimistic* XD

[Crios]

If you also want to talk ease of getting the "relic" weapons look at FF3 (put this in because CT will be out soon) all you had to do was really do. A little quest and fight a boss which by that point is easy to get the ultimate weapon then it's as simple as max out a job to 99 and free max weapon for that job.

So by Yoshi saying he's going back to the roots, if you look at almost every FF game the ultimate weapons are pretty easy to get.

[rtpsoulx]

If you also want to talk ease of getting the "relic" weapons look at FF3 (put this in because CT will be out soon) all you had to do was really do. A little quest and fight a boss which by that point is easy to get the ultimate weapon then it's as simple as max out a job to 99 and free max weapon for that job.

So by Yoshi saying he's going back to the roots, if you look at almost every FF game the ultimate weapons are pretty easy to get.

You can get Lion Heart in FFVIII on the 1st disc.. you just gotta spend hours playing the card game <.<

[Ericyu]

it would be nice to have legendary weapons similar to GW2 where its mainly obtained through solo progression. But everything in this game is so party dependent I dont think it will ever come to light atleast.not until 2.3