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  1. #11
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    Bufkus's Avatar
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    Hermennes Cletrindale
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    To be fair you still have to put a monumental amount of effort into getting a relic if it's your first one. Obviously people who are already geared, rich, know the game, etc., will have no problems gearing up their other classes with relics, but a new player is still going to have to put a lot of effort into it if they want their first relic.

    And obviously the relic was never intended to be the only weapon you will ever have. I'd like to think that come 2.2 there will be weapons better than relic+1 that people can aim for.
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  2. #12
    Player Aerostein's Avatar
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    Aerostein Epitaph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizlu View Post
    Titan? Like, really?

    There's a whole quest that you must do to get your Relic weapon. Don't blame Titan, blame the whole quest. It's too easy and fast to do. I'm not going to defend the 1.0 quest but it was harder and more time-consuming as to what we have now; that's why relics weren't as common as they are in ARR. The relic quest in this game is a joke. And it's kinda silly that the only hard part of the whole thing is Titan.
    Exactly. You are adding to my point whether you know it or not. lol
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  3. #13
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    Babydoll's Avatar
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    Cesil Rapture
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post


    Sorry
    Are you serious? Its not about being special or whatever....its about SE gimping the meaning behind the relic weapons. In previous FF (not just ffxi) relics were the most difficult to get yet most rewarding.

    Did you play any of the other FF games?

    Imagine playing any ff and getting masamune, Excalibur, gae bolg etc in the early part of the game -_- they are meant to be iconic and THE best...period. This has nothing to do with feeling special...well at least not to me anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufkus View Post
    To be fair you still have to put a monumental amount of effort into getting a relic if it's your first one. Obviously people who are already geared, rich, know the game, etc., will have no problems gearing up their other classes with relics, but a new player is still going to have to put a lot of effort into it if they want their first relic.

    And obviously the relic was never intended to be the only weapon you will ever have. I'd like to think that come 2.2 there will be weapons better than relic+1 that people can aim for.
    I do believe it is intended to be the best. In 1.0 interviews about 2.0 yoshida said in 2.0 relic is meant to be the best and we will get quests to improve it into the legendary weapon slowly over time...just Google ffxiv legendary weapon its easy to find.
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    Last edited by Babydoll; 11-23-2013 at 02:32 AM.

  4. #14
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    Tribunus Augustus
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    To be honest they added relics way too early or should have atleast tied it to coil, were now in a situation were they either drop relics all together or every other patch add a way to +1 it constantly (if they want to keep relics BiS).

    Personally I would rather they just drop the idea all together, the idea of a relic weapon doesnt fit well in a game where gear progression is the thing its based on.
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  5. #15
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    Ryios Locke
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    They are buffing alagan gear from BCB on 2.1 release, so il95 from twintania will be better than +1.......
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  6. #16
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    Rowan Lauron
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    Well at least with relic with some time and effort you get a decent weapon without having to worry about mindlessly farming primals and depending on RNG.

    I still think my relic is relic. Just because everyone may have one doesn't have to devalue it. I worked hard for mine, and I still value them more than any primal/coil drop I've gotten.
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    Last edited by RowanLauron; 11-23-2013 at 02:47 AM.

  7. #17
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    Are you serious? Its not about being special or whatever....its about SE gimping the meaning behind the relic weapons. In previous FF (not just ffxi) relics were the most difficult to get yet most rewarding.

    Did you play any of the other FF games?
    Why you people keep bringing expectations from other games? It's pretty obvious that it'll only lead to disappointment.
    Worse when the disappointment stems from "half of the server" (like OP's complain) having it too.

    Now that I've read it again, her complaint doesn't even makes sense. +1 Relic will be as good than Allagan. If it's about the item, having a +1 before it doesn't means it isn't the Curtana anymore.
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  8. #18
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufkus View Post
    I'd like to think that come 2.2 there will be weapons better than relic+1 that people can aim for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    In 1.0 interviews about 2.0 yoshida said in 2.0 relic is meant to be the best and we will get quests to improve it into the legendary weapon slowly over time...just Google ffxiv legendary weapon its easy to find.
    The idea of Relic +2, +3, ect does not sound too farfetched.
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  9. #19
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    Vactus Serakai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    They are buffing alagan gear from BCB on 2.1 release, so il95 from twintania will be better than +1.......
    To be fair, WAR Relic +1 was still not as good as Allagan if you needed +Acc. PLD can use either and be fine, and most use Curtana. WAR have to decide between +Parry or +Accuracy. :/ Now that choice just got easier.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    They never were...except in 1.0 lol
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