I-Level 55 requirement for Crystal Tower seems like a bad idea

[Feyniphia]

ilvl 55 requirement for a ilvl 80 8 man dungeon? way too low.

[ufufu]

How about this:

Q10: Will you be able to form your own alliances and enter Crystal Tower?

A10: In patch 2.1 you will not be able to form your own alliance. You can enter with a party of eight.

WHAT

[DrakoRocks]

its funny how theres a lot ppl thinking that they will be able to clear extreme primals easily and why the need for relics..

i bet it will impossible or near impossible to clear extreme primals without a lot of ilvl90/95 and relic+1.

progression is very clear.

- get 50 and AF
- do WP/AK/New dungeons for ilvl55/60 and tokens for ilvl70/90
- do CT for ilvl80 and tokens for ilvl 70/90
- get relic weapon and farm tokens for +1
- Coil and Extreme primals when you have all other stuff

[Mitternacht]

LOL I thought CT will help players to get gear for Coil. But from 55 to 80?? wtf thats too easy!

Yeah, I know it would only be more ridiculous if people could just go from 70 to 90.

An average item level of 55 is 660 total item level; that's not going to happen without having some amount of gear from AK (or Pharos or HM Copperbell or HM Manor) or Darklight. No one in just AF and a Grand Company weapon is going to make that number without at least item level 60 gear in every other slot.

[Ksenia]

I'd support these graduate systems more if I didn't have to farm philo in a dungeon. Feel free to leave them there but I want another option.

The only thing crafting had going for it was, it was an alternative to dungeons. Yes I am beating a dead horse. No, I won't stop.

Philo dungeon lock in and Shards are my biggest complaints in this game.

[NefarioCall]

Yeah, I know it would only be more ridiculous if people could just go from 70 to 90.

An average item level of 55 is 660 total item level; that's not going to happen without having some amount of gear from AK (or Pharos or HM Copperbell or HM Manor) or Darklight. No one in just AF and a Grand Company weapon is going to make that number without at least item level 60 gear in every other slot.

^^this.
iLvL 55 average means that if you have a level 49 ring equipped, you need LvL61 of something else to compensate the average. A full set of iLvL55 with one iLvL49 will not be enough to enter. Now, based on this i'd rather it be iLvL56 so to slightly tilt it in that way just a smidge more, but it still does not wipe out the need for the iLvL55-60 dungeons as others have mentioned. Even if you had somehow equipped an entire set of 55 gear prior to running any of those dungeons, your one lvl49 ring would require that you have two lvl60 items to compensate.

Then i also imagine that being the bare minimum, there's no harm in being a little higher. Again, i'd rather it's lvl56 or 57 average, but 55 still needs AK and similar to be run a few times.

[Lstkaws]

Right now I'm not really seeing the point of Dark Light Gear. People can just pug for CT and skip to ilvl 80 gear. Also, extreme primals will be giving out ilvl 90 weapons. So... what does that make my relic +1 now? Will there even be a reason to bother get your relic weapon? I mean if you get an extreme weapon, the next upgrade would be Allagan weapon since it would be i95. I'm just a bit confused about all these gears being thrown out xD. I'm glad CT will help me gear my sub classes but it seems it might just make my other gear obsolete in no time.

I am hoping we will be able to upgrade our relics in the future. I do not think they would just abandon relics.

[Kalam]

As long as CT doesn't turn into WoW's LFR I'll be fine. I would like the ilvl to be slightly higher, mainly because all the people attempting this in ilvl 55 gear will be right back here Dec 18th demanding a nerf to CT.

[Arkista]

I remember Yoshi say that Relic weapons may be required to enter CT is this still true or just ilvl55 Avg?

EDIT well if its ilvl55 then relic won't be required so..... The ilvl needs to be raised you can buy ilvl70 weapons and gar off the market board. LMAO SE so sad

[Kalam]

As long as CT doesn't turn into WoW's LFR I'll be fine. I would like the ilvl to be slightly higher, mainly because all the people attempting this in ilvl 55 gear will be right back here Dec 18th demanding a nerf to CT.