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    Race to 50

    I've been jumping around from craft to craft getting all of the useful level 15 skills. I've been getting Goldsmith up slowly but surely and I had a look at the Levequests Goldsmith can do for multiple returns.

    For the most part, the Levequests for Goldsmith look INCREDIBLY easy to do with just a few materials. Not only that, but the materials look to be dirt cheap as well.

    Am I missing anything here or is Goldsmith the easiest Level 50 you can do? Or is crafting just (obviously) getting easier and easier the more cross class skills you're able to use?
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    I don't knwo about GSM being easier or harder, I don't have that one leveled. But yes, it should be easier as you level with cross class. Utilizing the lvl 15 skills will make leveling very easy especially if you max out weaver for Careful Syn II. That makes leveling seriously easy.

    Lastly don't forget about experience. You know your way around, you know leve's now, mats etc. Bound to increase speed due to that
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    I look at the triple turn ins...

    For example; GSM malachite jewlery is pretty easy - a silver ingot, 2 malachites, and then the piece of jewelery (craft 4 things to have a finsihed product). Alc and Cul are easier - often requiring nothing but the final product. Ltw, and Crp have some easy ones too (lumber or leather). Arm, and Wvr are the opposite sometimes requiring 9+ crafted items to get the completed product.

    Hardest to easiest IMO: Arm > Wvr >>> Bsm, Gsm > Ltw > Crp > Alc, Cul

    Ltw could be much harder since mats are a bit tougher, and some others might be too... Armorer might not actually be that difficult, it's just a lot of steps, and the least(?) useful. If I would just use the lazy synth for thread wvr might be easier?
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    What in your sweet heaven makes you think Cul is anywhere near easy??

    Every recipe for triple turn-ins is 6 materials, at least half of them will have 2 to 3 of those materials being processed, meaning they come from another 1 or 2 other materials themselves.
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    Walnut Bread kind of sucks at 20. Chamomile Tea until La Noscean Toast at 45 wasn't too tedious, honestly. Maybe Acorn Cookies, but in all honesty, if I remember it right you only needed to craft the Rye Flour, the rest was immediately purchasable (Mineral Water and the Iron Acorns). It also helps realizing that the stuff like Table Salt adds so little to the Quality bar that you can just Quick Synth it without taking a blow to your conscience.

    That said, my personal experiences were something like this so far:

    Weaver/Armourer > Carpenter > Blacksmith > Leatherworking > Goldsmith/Culinarian > Alchemist

    Just the fact that Weaver and Armourer uses so damn many components sends the shard usage skyrocketing. I'm tired of farming shards but I refuse to accidentally buy shards gathered by bots and funding the RMT. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    What in your sweet heaven makes you think Cul is anywhere near easy??

    Every recipe for triple turn-ins is 6 materials, at least half of them will have 2 to 3 of those materials being processed, meaning they come from another 1 or 2 other materials themselves.
    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with Skies on that. I bit the bullet and it cost me just over 100k gil on the Market Board to get Steady Hand II. The huge list of materials necessary to make the goods for the levequests for CUL just wasn't worth making myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Walnut Bread kind of sucks at 20. Chamomile Tea until La Noscean Toast at 45 wasn't too tedious, honestly. Maybe Acorn Cookies, but in all honesty, if I remember it right you only needed to craft the Rye Flour, the rest was immediately purchasable (Mineral Water and the Iron Acorns). It also helps realizing that the stuff like Table Salt adds so little to the Quality bar that you can just Quick Synth it without taking a blow to your conscience.

    That said, my personal experiences were something like this so far:

    Weaver/Armourer > Carpenter > Blacksmith > Leatherworking > Goldsmith/Culinarian > Alchemist

    Just the fact that Weaver and Armourer uses so damn many components sends the shard usage skyrocketing. I'm tired of farming shards but I refuse to accidentally buy shards gathered by bots and funding the RMT. -_-
    no way! Crp is way way easy.

    On a cost+developement+cross class general anaylise

    Easy: Alchemy
    Easy-ish: Leather, Cooking
    Middle: GSM, CRP
    Hard: BSM/Armorer
    Harder: Weaver

    Some can be made easier like weaver that has very few cross class but lots of stages (mat->yarn->cloth -> clothes) but is overall terribly expensive and more expensive at the cost of quick synths, and this is not even including the farming of dirmite and fleece.

    Some need considerable cross class materials like BSM, and thus make the tally much more cost infeffective and time consuming.

    Some are made easier by applying "tricks" such as the the leatherwork and cooking, to vastly speed things up.

    But overall, the easiest and most profitable and craft speed is alchemy (hi potion is godly) durring leveling
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 11-23-2013 at 03:21 AM.

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    LTW might've been more annoying if it hadn't given me all the skins I needed from leve rewards. I basically didn't really have to buy/farm skins past aldgoat all the way to 50.

    GSM isn't too bad, but it takes awhile to craft all those ingots and gems before making the jewelry for the turnins. Even more time if you're mining up the several hundred raw gems/ore as well.

    And yeah, Alch is really easy if you're a little intelligent about what you make. Hi Potions are easy to make (especially if you have Botany - mats are gathered next to the leve location) and Lanolin is super easy to make later because karakul skins are so cheap from everyone farming fleece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortok View Post
    LTW might've been more annoying if it hadn't given me all the skins I needed from leve rewards. I basically didn't really have to buy/farm skins past aldgoat all the way to 50.

    GSM isn't too bad, but it takes awhile to craft all those ingots and gems before making the jewelry for the turnins. Even more time if you're mining up the several hundred raw gems/ore as well.

    And yeah, Alch is really easy. Hi Potions are easy to make (especially if you have Botany - mats are gathered next to the leve location) and Lanolin is super easy to make later because karakul skins are so cheap from everyone farming fleece.
    Even if you farm skins... 1 skin 1 leather... and have you probably skipped the all npc brought triple =)

    GSM... brassssssss rrrriiiinnnggg tooooo mytrillllllll eearrrrrinnggggg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post

    Easy: Alchemy
    Easy-ish: Leather, Cooking
    Middle: GSM, CRP
    Hard: BSM/Armorer
    Harder: Weaver
    I agree with much of that but I found Alch to be more in line with Weaver. Just because the 45 is off limits due to pudding flesh. I also find Armorer to be akin to Weaver. Ingots, Plates, rings and other things to make any wearable. Blacksmith is the most brutal on cross class.

    I went a bit foolish on Culi. I think I made all HQ ingredients for the toast, including the walnut bread and I made 90 of them so the prework to make the LaNoscean toast was more than the making it. Ended up only using 30 or so. I did that with all my 50's though. Ltw I had 36 HQ Cesti when I hit 45 in addition to 60 HQ Raptor leather. It was a matter of running up and down for new leve quests.

    As for OP. All mats for Gsm are mined really. I get it all myself and in addition I throw NQ away as I mine so I do take longer than most. It might seem like a bad decision but when you are banging out HQ one right after the other and you don't need to play the says 90% is really 40% Hasty Hand game, you thank yourself.
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