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    Was making Allagan iLvl 95 a mistranslation?

    I saw someone say:

    Actually, I'm pretty sure the actual translation was closer to something like "Allagan and Relic +1" will be changed to i95.
    Japanese people call the AF armor and myth armor Relic / Relic +1 armor.
    on Reddit.

    Please say they are correct.

    I understand the game lacks content and to combat it you're trying to create a massive gear grind at end game, but please don't. People have gone since launch with a drop.

    Please don't create a purely lucky driven gear progression.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 11-23-2013 at 02:28 AM.


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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ffed-to-ilvl95.

    Yes we would all like to know this.
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    From a design point of view, it'd make sense to reward the best gear from actually killing stuff in Coil as opposed to just farm a lot of lesser content for a very long time. But, given the extreme variance on loot drops in Coil, I don't think that's a good idea. That'd be fine if Coil dropped tokens, or even tokens with some volatility (like say melee DPS token versus ranged DPS token, or certain slot tokens are rare) but I just don't see it adding anything if you could beat this stuff but still need to beat the very long odds of actually getting your class loot to drop in Coil to get the best stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
    From a design point of view, it'd make sense to reward the best gear from actually killing stuff in Coil as opposed to just farm a lot of lesser content for a very long time. But, given the extreme variance on loot drops in Coil, I don't think that's a good idea. That'd be fine if Coil dropped tokens, or even tokens with some volatility (like say melee DPS token versus ranged DPS token, or certain slot tokens are rare) but I just don't see it adding anything if you could beat this stuff but still need to beat the very long odds of actually getting your class loot to drop in Coil to get the best stuff.
    Well, unfortunately, myth gear and allagan gear are not equivalent. If you have full allagan or full myth, your secondary stats are pretty much trash. You need to mix and match them according to your specific job to get the best (secondary) stats. Making allagan iLVL95 and not making myth iLVL95 just makes that even more awkward, because now you have to sacrifice PRIMARY stats in order to make sure your secondary stats aren't trash (which is an important consideration, if you, you know, want to have 100% accuracy rate and get as much crit as possible etc. etc.). I can't wait for them to drop more myth stuff in there (AF3 or whatever you want to call it, that they showed concept art of) so you can basically ROLL BACK all the progress you made so far spending myth because there's newer, better, more expensive myth items to get. Because I want to live in a bottleneck for the rest of my life, and as soon as I spend months getting whatever, it becomes trash because reasons.
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    Ilvl 95 they even used the word buffed which means the allagan stats will be changing so all that BIs stuff just went out the window.
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  6. 11-23-2013 04:30 AM

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    Im pretty sure that in stream they said allagan weapons are getting buffed to 95.
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    It's only the weapons.
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    大迷宮バハムートで入手できるアラガン装備のアイテムレベルを95に変更する予定です。

    We plan to change the item level of the allagan equipment obtained in the Binding Coil of Bahamut to 95.

    Edit: Just to make it clearer/more confusing. The above came from the official Japanese thread, while the actual words Yoshida used in the broadcast was that they plan to make specifically allagan weapons ilvl95 (he said nothing of allagan armors/accessories), in order to raise them above the relic+1 weapons.

    I'm guessing Yoshida's explanation is the right one. In essence, Relic+1 will no longer be top tier but rather a stepping stone to do coil with in order to obtain the allagan weapons.
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    Last edited by EmiliM; 11-23-2013 at 05:07 AM.

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    There was a dev respond that said it was for the weapons only since is very difficult to clear Turn 5 but he will doble check and tell for sure.
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    There was a dev respond that said it was for the weapons only since is very difficult to clear Turn 5 but he will doble check and tell for sure.
    I'm fine with just weapons since T5 is disproportionately difficult compared to T1-4, but I hope to God they don't make the entirety of gear progression luck based.
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