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    d4rkie's Avatar
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    Mi'qo Akiyama
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    It's just allagan weapons. relax
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    Quote Originally Posted by d4rkie View Post
    It's just allagan weapons. relax
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan hm quadrillion times, when just a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better weapon?
    It was appropriate when on par, now coil is getting ridiculous. Let's add how fragmented and isolated are coil groups, with fixed spots, and a backup for emergencies

    Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?

    I'm not gonna substitute my shiny relics +1 (3 weeks of myth wasted) because devs are so idiot to add a tier on allagan weapons , be sure. It's better if dev team wake up, raising relic+1 to ilvl 95 too
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    Last edited by Teon; 11-22-2013 at 11:48 PM.

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    Rikuru Strife
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan, and a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better wapon?
    It was appropriate when on par, now coil is getting ridiculous. Let's add how fragmented and isolated are coil groups, with fixed spots, and a backup for emergencies

    Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?
    I'm not gonna substitute my shiny relics because devs are so idiot to add a tier on allagan weapons , be sure
    Considerring the weapon comes from Twin, and the amount of people that have actually downed Twin...I dont see a problem.
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    Elendil Voronda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan hm quadrillion times, when just a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better weapon?
    It was appropriate when on par, now coil is getting ridiculous. Let's add how fragmented and isolated are coil groups, with fixed spots, and a backup for emergencies

    Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?

    I'm not gonna substitute my shiny relics +1 (3 weeks of myth wasted) because devs are so idiot to add a tier on allagan weapons , be sure. It's better if dev team wake up, raising relic+1 to ilvl 95 too
    Err Getting Relic is much much much easier that beating Coils (let alone Twintania) so it kinda makes sense that those weapons are upgrades to relics +1, why else would I run Coils it I can get the same thing by spamming WP or AK every week?
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    Fudo Myoo
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    So after reading way too much of kids bitching about not being handed the best gear in the game it should be noted that this game works on stat tiers. So, unless SE makes ilvl 95 drastically better then ilvl 90 it wont automatically make it best. More then likely it will be better but i mean as a tank one vit to lose a tier lvl of anything isnt worth it. So, get over it.

    Oh, and for those complaining they wasted their mytho on gear/+1, you then saying that gear hasn't helped your group at all?
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    Last edited by Acala; 11-23-2013 at 03:29 AM.

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    Seijuro Hiko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan hm quadrillion times, when just a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better weapon?
    try enterring CoB with someone that did'nt beat Titan HM (you cant)
    try killing CoB bosses with i70 weapons
    and if titan is an "hassle you had to run quadrillion times" you're not close to see the coffer that drop better weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Yes, really. AF Class armor should always be the best gear in the game. And it should be astronomically harder to acquire. Think World Of Warcraft Tier Gear, Tier 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.... When I quit wow we were at Tier 8.5 and it was the BEST gear you could have. But you couldn't farm tokens for it.

    Tier Tokens dropped off bosses in Icecrown Citadel
    this is not WoW
    then just need to swap skin and names between alagan and "af1.5"!
    there is now way something you can get farming point in the easiest "end game" dungeons should be better than drops from the current hardest content

    and get used to the gear you worked hard to get being replaced, it will happen every 1 or2 update

    only valide complain is people who passed Allagan because it was not BiS
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    Last edited by Hik0; 11-23-2013 at 04:29 AM.

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    Ryios Locke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    try enterring CoB with someone that did'nt beat Titan HM (you cant)
    this is not WoW
    then just need to swap skin and names between alagan and "af1.5"!
    there is now way something you can get farming point in the easiest "end game" dungeons should be better than drops from the current hardest content

    and get used to the gear you worked hard to get being replaced, it will happen every 1 or2 update

    only valide complain is people who passed Allagan because it was not BiS
    I never implied AF as it is now should be better. What I am saying is we shouldn't get af 1.5 from myth tomes, it should be the other way around. We should get alagan gear from myth tomes and AF 1.5 from tokens that drop in bcb.

    My reason for this is that to me, my class specific AWESOME looking armor should be the best gear. It's the gear I want to wear.

    Or better yet, they should leave AF 1.5 alone and BCB drops alone and add something we can farm from some content (BCB maybe) that let's us upgrade AF 1.5 to AF 2 and is il 100 (no matter how hard said upgrade is to get).
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    Last edited by Ryios; 11-23-2013 at 04:42 AM.

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    Divus Valkyrja
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?
    The weapon upgrade seems fair to me. Titan HM gives relics (an easy level 80 weapon). Defeating Coil T5 will takes more than the time that it takes to get a + 1 unless you have a super awesome group. You don't even have to try to get a relic + 1. It comes to you in 3 weeks.

    My group hasn't even cleared T4 yet. I know how easy it is to get a + 1 relic. I have two relic + 1. I believe I will have four relic + 1 by the time my group defeats T5.

    This is a MMO game, you will never be the same as someone who spends more time than you in-game. The real world isn't much different. People get where they are at usually because they have worked harder than the other person. They have spent more time grinding their life at a specific job. This is why they become professionals at what they do.

    Edit:
    Don't forget extreme primals are now dropping weapons the same level as relic + 1. So you don't even need to wait 3 weeks if your group is able to clear the extreme modes within this time.
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    Last edited by OxTitan; 11-23-2013 at 06:59 AM.

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    Lesley Jordan
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan hm quadrillion times, when just a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better weapon?
    It was appropriate when on par, now coil is getting ridiculous. Let's add how fragmented and isolated are coil groups, with fixed spots, and a backup for emergencies

    Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?

    I'm not gonna substitute my shiny relics +1 (3 weeks of myth wasted) because devs are so idiot to add a tier on allagan weapons , be sure. It's better if dev team wake up, raising relic+1 to ilvl 95 too
    Sorry, I cannot take this comment serious.

    Getting the Allagan Weapon is so much harder then getting the Relic +1 weapon, if anything they should raise the iLvl to 95 and raise the stats as well.
    In the end, Binding Coil is the hard endgame content and rewards should fit the difficulty.

    Relic + 1 is ridiculously easy to get.
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    Jahaudant Rivea
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    Quote Originally Posted by d4rkie View Post
    It's just allagan weapons. relax
    According to whom?
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