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  1. #291
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    HitokiriBattousai's Avatar
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    Hito Battousai
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    Oh noes I haven't spent every waking hour running through end-game content... I must be a bad gamer huh.
    Player skill issue.
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  2. #292
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    Vasher's Avatar
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    Meowza Kitty
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    I really hope SE doesn't listen to elitists in this thread and instead keeps the initial policy of having alternate methods to farm top-level gear.



    Why? That's exactly what Yoshida described here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...33#post1578533
    It's exactly how the game was meant to be played before elitists made him change his mind, apparently.
    People are so entitled these days lol... I want a Ferrari without working for it, but that won't happen.

    Kids these days and their easymodes and "participation trophies".
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMONSTER View Post
    how do you define no life? Cause the way I see it, you think you need gear as good as people doing more end game content than you for what purpose? to stand around and have a fashion show before you next super hard run of WP? pixel fashion shows are no life buddy, don't be mad at people who want gear to actually utilize it
    LMAO EXACTLY
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  4. #294
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    Hito Battousai
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMONSTER View Post
    how do you define no life? Cause the way I see it, you think you need gear as good as people doing more end game content than you for what purpose? to stand around and have a fashion show before you next super hard run of WP? pixel fashion shows are no life buddy, don't be mad at people who want gear to actually utilize it
    C-C-C-Combo BREAKER!
    Perfectly said!
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  5. #295
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    Hito Battousai
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    Skyl1n3 must be done


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    Last edited by HitokiriBattousai; 11-23-2013 at 08:44 PM.

  6. #296
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damie View Post
    Still, You could beat t5 every week and not see your weapon for weeks, maybe months. It isn't something you can farm like the primal weps. This is obviously not something that will appeal to the casual players SE supposedly wants.
    The other i90 options will do fine and allagan would be a minor upgrade, it would be vexing to see bad rng but it's not the end of the world.

    Besides I don't believe that's really the concern of people here, as what they're really mad about is that they actually have to do coil to get BiS now, actual hard content. People who can demonstrate more ability than them will actually get a chance at better shinies, which hurts a lot of people who don't want such distinction between capable and incapable players so they can enter WP pugs without judgment.

    The concern about T5 being quicker is just a facade really as the idea is a joke to any coil runner who doesn't play vicariously through youtube videos.
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  7. #297
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyl1n3 View Post
    YES the Relic +1 is easier to acquire but it requires more TIME AND EFFORT to get it! If you "elitists" are crying about this because your T5 Weapon is the same as a Relic +1 and you want a couple stats boosted in order to feel 'better' than everyone else then that's just sad...
    after 2.1 and 450weekly cap an 8man group can make 8relic+1 in 2week (one for each player) but only 2 allagan weapon (and not sure you get the 2 you want)
    it's 4* more time if your group is F... lucky and get the 8weapon they want in a row
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  8. #298
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    Vice Eventreuse
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    Goblin
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    Fisher Lv 80
    As a good friend of mine stated this is definitely a plus.
    This will add value and a sense of accomplishment for even getting the allagan pieces.
    As they stand they are replaceable, if not by primary AF1 body and legs, by all pieces of AF1.
    Allagan gear is the only gear you seriously have to work for in the game it should be the best currently.
    All it takes is one login per week, maybe 30mins to an hour a week for however many weeks, no need to play any more than that and you have AF1.
    It should be the other way around from how it is now which is why I'm so happy with the update.
    AF1 SHOULD supplement Allagan. Not how it stands with Allagan supplementing AF1.

    Also, another friend brought up another good point, they should have mentioned this a bit earlier than they did so people wouldn't be so shocked about it. Heh...
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  9. #299
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Damie View Post
    Having the best weapons in the game being only obtainable though RNG is not the direction I expected them to take. Twintania will become much easier over the next couple months with increasing gear and exp. Still, You could beat t5 every week and not see your weapon for weeks, maybe months. It isn't something you can farm like the primal weps. This is obviously not something that will appeal to the casual players SE supposedly wants.
    The way I see it, relic+1 is already a very good piece for casuals, if casuals aren't gonna be setting foot into coils anytime soon then having coil drops slightly better won't affect them. look at it the other way, SE also wants to retain hardcore players, which usually stick with the game the longest (see ffxi).
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  10. #300
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    Thanos Xiv
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    It's about time they make people work for BIS running end game content. I've always wondered and still wondered why it was so easy to get gear from tomes on par with stuff currently in the hardest content.

    Should just eliminate tomes altogether and make everyone work the same content towards the same things. Of course there will be people who cry cause you know.. they cant spend X hours like the next person but want the same thing.
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