Allagan Gear getting buffed to ilvl95.

[Damie]

As a BLM should I continue to use Relic+1 even if I had the allagan setup? Even if the stats are buffed(I doubt it will be much), I would still lose the 18 determination that was on my Relic. Not using the highest level weapon you have seems stupid though.

[TirionCrey]

So who wear a relic+1 is a common crapper?

p.s. you forgot server raids (chimera+hydra, and the time spent to find a group for it)

Stop calling trolls who want his time invested ingame worthy. e-peen syndrome, you need allagan 95 to prove you mastered coil? A full set and allagan 90 is not enough ? Am i being a troll asking relic+1 on par?

I literally finished 2 Relics of mine in 2 1/2 hours doing all except Titan with PUGS, including finding groups, waiting for them to be ready etc etc. You are just one of those lazy mofos who waits for a PT to be almost done and grab a spot...I'm one of those who starts a PT by himself and gets people so I don't waste my time waiting for something that might not happen.

PS: Yes Relic+1 is a common crapper thing. All it takes is one Relic Quest chain and 30 Wanderers Palace(10/week). Nothing of that is even close to be worthwhile mentioning in the same sentence with Twintania. If Coil would be the only place in the game to earn Mythology...then I would consider Relic+1 somewhat f an achievement...but not as it is right now. You want to be compensated for your time invested to get it? Well I think you wasted a lot of time in the first place if it took you that long to get it.

PPS: Most groups that beat Twintania, especially the first 4-5 groups in the world wasted 2 months on Twintania...wiping to her several hours each day...so what is your stupid Relic worth in comparison?

[Atreides]

Are you even thinking before you post such nonsense Teon?
Seriously how can you even remotely compare the efford you need to put into the Twintania fight with getting a Relic +1?!
All your posts so far cannot be taken serious by any means, I call troll because I really don't want to believe in such lack of understanding the content...

[Teon]

B: Actually haven't so please do link if you don't mind.

b: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...il-priviledges



God if it's ridiculous this e community , i'll just delete the last posts, waste of time

[Pibz]

A: So you agree it may happens. Do you want to play a sub on a game where you fought hard to wear your weapon, and the guy next to you just bough his one? Do you still feel worthy of your allagan 95?

b: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...il-priviledges

c: as you can read on that thread, people pugs. Skip the part they do it for troll purposes. Still may happen to need a guy for turn 5. If i have a guy on one of the JP LS i'm in (good news, my FC is my 3 slot bank, LS are enough to organize a coil run ) , experienced willing to give it a try, i invite him.
I'm not the douchebag of the day, mind me
Life is so strange, that backup guy performed better than the core one. Curious huh?

D:Relic, correct. Not +1. aka 3 weeks of myth wasted. You got the point?

Looking forward to content where that allagan 95 makes the difference

E: from when this thread turned from "we need a clarification about what yoshi meant with "gear" to "Which Tier Teon plays, he's a troll asking his relic+1 on par, he's the only one on this planet, being a douche"

God if it's ridiculous this e community

A, B , C: I got the points you said, people getting screwed , possibility of exploit through sale(which i said is highly unlikely and a bit unfeasible in my eyes at least).
Alas ,as i also am repeating, all of this (which again i believe should be addressed in some ways, some of it at least) is not a problem fabricated through the insertion of allagan ilvl 95, its a problem already HERE.

D: Yeah well since we're talking 2.1 its 2 weeks now but hardly makes a difference to my point.

E: I actually believe you're concerned with making the game a better experience etc, that's why I'm having this discussion.(Dunno if that was targeted at me or not)

[Teon]

E: I actually believe you're concerned with making the game a better experience etc, that's why I'm having this discussion.(Dunno if that was targeted at me or not)

Not directed to you.
At least you saw my point and what i am concerned for. Thanks for your time.

[TirionCrey]

b: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...il-priviledges



God if it's ridiculous this e community , i'll just delete the last posts, waste of time

It's sad that people actually do that. They are just being plain assholes.

Doesn't change the fact that Relic+1 is not an accomplishment and shouldn't be itemlvl95 all of a sudden, just cause Allagan weaps are getting upped in 2.1.

PS: One thing that also makes it hard for me to believe that this is a common issue(the dragging innocent people to Turn 5 thing) is...I actually play on the same Server as the OP in that thread...and I don't wanna talk shit about other people but this particular one is an obnoxious loud mouth that prolly put it on himself. I actually did part of his first Relic Quest with him in the group (did Chimera, Hydra and Ifrit with him) and I rarely came across a person that is more annoying and selfish/dumb as he was. Not to mention that all the way to Titan he was wearing itemlvl 45-50 gear...which didn't help his cause to not come across as a selfish prick wanting to be carried.

[Naberrie]

But I Hope I haven't wasted my Myth tomes on BIS relic gear.

Which is exactly why I've been waiting for 2.1. No one I knew in game seemed to get it until today.

[TirionCrey]

Not directed to you.
At least you saw my point and what i am concerned for. Thanks for your time.

I got your points as well. I merely told you that your points are all invalid, cause none of your scenarios will happen anytime soon if at all.

So the only thing that really stuck in my head was you QQing for Relic+1 getting upped to itemlvl95 as well, cause you think it is comparable to beating Twintania...and sorry...it's not...not even close.

[Teon]

It's sad that people actually do that. They are just being plain assholes.

Doesn't change the fact that Relic+1 is not an accomplishment and shouldn't be itemlvl95 all of a sudden, just cause Allagan weaps are getting upped in 2.1.

PS: One thing that also makes it hard for me to believe that this is a common issue(the dragging innocent people to Turn 5 thing) is...I actually play on the same Server as the OP in that thread...and I don't wanna talk shit about other people but this particular one is an obnoxious loud mouth that prolly put it on himself. I actually did part of his first Relic Quest with him in the group (did Chimera, Hydra and Ifrit with him) and I rarely came across a person that is more annoying and selfish/dumb as he was. Not to mention that all the way to Titan he was wearing itemlvl 45-50 gear...which didn't help his cause to not come across as a selfish prick wanting to be carried.

Belive me or not, it's even widespreading on other servers. I saw friends invited on a pug for coil 3 and 4 (and 5) on other servers, and group leaving at beginning ,locking him out.

Sad, isn't it.

I don't know that guy hehe, but the issue is real, we don't know which turn we are getting until it begins and it's too late.We can talk about this topic on that thread linked

I got your points as well. I merely told you that your points are all invalid, cause none of your scenarios will happen anytime soon if at all.

So the only thing that really stuck in my head was you QQing for Relic+1 getting upped to itemlvl95 as well, cause you think it is comparable to beating Twintania...and sorry...it's not...not even close.

I want to belive my myth armor and my relic +1 wasn't a pure waste of weeks, while i should just have farmed coil 24/7 No, it wasn't a pure comparation of difficulty per se, i'm sorry if the point was misinterpreted

Let's hope my scenario will be a far nightmare (RMT sellers already laughing, much more if the price will truly be 5 mil for a bough run)