Allagan Gear getting buffed to ilvl95.

[TirionCrey]

How does it screw up a bis list? You're taking some of those pieces because of accuracy right? 5 ilvls extra for allagan gear isn't going to change the fact that you still need accuracy to hit things, those pieces with acc on them will continue to be better because of the acc whether they are ilvl 95 or 90. Just because the gear may be changing to 95 doesn't mean everyone needs to be an ilvl hero and take every higher ilvl pieces just to increase their epeen when in reality they are severely gimping themselves due to secondary stats.

This might not apply to DPS or Healing classes. But for a Tank the higher itemlvl is gonna make the difference. I will take a few more VIT on my PLD over any Accuracy any day. If I don't keep my T5 cap I can live with missing one hit out of 100. But 2-3more VIT on body pieces is enough for me to take Allagan over AF2 in any slot(not counting accessories).

[Sephirah]

This might not apply to DPS or Healing classes. But for a Tank the higher itemlvl is gonna make the difference. I will take a few more VIT on my PLD over any Accuracy any day. If I don't keep my T5 cap I can live with missing one hit out of 100. But 2-3more VIT on body pieces is enough for me to take Allagan over AF2 in any slot(not counting accessories).

As long as you don't let yourself drop below 472, you still hit most the time, but when that Rage of Halone at the start of a pull misses and you can't generate a substantial amount of threat for another 7 seconds, you're gonna wanna say goodbye to those few points of VIT.

[deadbyfaith]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm serious split on this.

When I first got to the Endgame, it was seriously all about WHO you knew. 90% of your endgame was you waiting for a party and barely knowing the best way to farm and so forth. It took me little less than a month to hit 50, so you can imagine what the endgame was like at the time. And those who are seriously geared right now certainly remember that. It was a little rough to do anything. Lots of CM and Prae, over... and over... and over. The mental grind alone was enough to satisfy you once you obtained your goal of full Darklight gear.

Once I finally found the Relic quest line, it took forever to find a party to do anything. Especially for AK. Elitests would tell you to piss off 'cause you weren't geared enough for the Demon Wall and they didn't want to waste their time Mytho Farming on you since AK was the only place to really farm Mythos at the time. It took me about 2 weeks to FINALLY get my Relic. JUST My relic! My DPS was suffering at the time so I decided to get my Mytho Ring to complete my Darklight gear, seeing as I could not get another Item Level 70 ring that DIDN'T break my wallet at the time. So once I DID get my Relic, I had to farm 3 full weeks to get my +1. So a little over a MONTH to get the BEST weapon in the game? I think that's 100% fair.

As for coil. I work at GameStop. It's Holiday. Need I say more? I've only been in coil ONCE. After obtaining all of my DL gear, Mytho Ring AND +1 for my Bard, my FC had a Coil group that was missing a Bard. NEVER did Coil before, and we one shot through to turn 4. I did perfectly fine. The problem is, my schedule is so wonky, I can never do coil on a regular basis with people that plan that stuff ahead of time. I just happened to be on at the right time. Managed to get ONE Coil peice... a Bracelet. Woot.

My luck, is absolute crap. Wish I could use a much, MUCH stronger word, but I don't wanna offend anymore, nor do i wanna be banned. Farming Ifrit for that Ifrit's Bow, which is where 90% of my endgame started (complete waste of my time and life), an Ifrit's Bow FINALLY dropped at kill 35. There was another bard in the party. Enough said. Needless to say, I finally got the bow when I stopped giving a hoot about farming, and was just helping a friend... around kill 45.

However... i can see how EVERYBODY having a +1 can make you, personally, feel... not so "elite." However... The Allagan weapons do have swapped stats. The top stats (like the Dex and Vit on the bow) stay the same as your +1 Relic; but the bottom stats (Acc and Skill speed) swap, basically. So depending on how YOU Want to build yourself, you have options!

Personally, I don't care much for Allagan 'cause I can't ever do coil as I mentioned earlier. I'm just biding my time while it takes over THREE MONTHS to farm the required mythos to get all of my Mytho gear... which looks a HELL OF A LOT sexier on my Miqo'te Bard, THANK YOU.

If ANYTHING... it's a bit... cheap... that there are TWO weekly methoods to get Item Level 90 gear. Yes, Coil is super hard in most cases, you gotta have great communication and 9 out of 10 people will REFUSE you for not having a VoIP program. Kinda leaves PS3 users without a pot to piss in. *Raises hand up as a PS3 User.* Though I do have TeamSpeak on my phone. I had to PAY for that... Hmmm... But to THOSE who DO have the time to Farm Mythos, Run Coil and be LUCKY... they get Level 90 gear, TWICE as fast, if not FASTER. Lets see here... THREE weeks to farm for Mytho Chest or Legs... ONE week if you're lucky enough to loot the damn thing. AGAIN... My luck sucks.... words-I-can't-say!

Like I said... I'm split. Part of me is "don't fix something that isn't broken." While the other part is "Yeah, it would be nice to have something else at the end of the rainbow." However... I am more to the "Don't fix something that isn't broken!" 'Cause really... I know someone who's got ALL Item level 90 gear. 3 months after launch? That's complete crap. 'Cause at the current 300 Mytho Cap, just on Mythos alone, it'll take you THREE MONTHS just to get your ARMOR (Head/Chest/Gloves/Legs/Boots) and that DOESN'T include Belt and Accessories. Soooo.... where's the problem and leaving Mytho the best gear?

I've ranted enough.

((Thank you zdub303, I didn't mean to spam this thread. But yeah... I also apologize to the Mods here for gumming up deleted post requests and such! >.<))

[zdub303]

As long as you don't let yourself drop below 472, you still hit most the time, but when that Rage of Halone at the start of a pull misses and you can't generate a substantial amount of threat for another 7 seconds, you're gonna wanna say goodbye to those few points of VIT.

Just dropping down to 465 until I could get Allagan Bracelets was horrible on Turn 4... missing mid rotation is so painful.

However, you are going to want to push as high as you can with ilvl on the left imo, for the defense. Best bet would be to make up for the lost accuracy on left side through allagan jewelry (which all has 16 accuracy iirc).

(There's a 1000 Character cap? Holy crap, I can write a book. Please forgive me for back to back posts. This needs to be said.)

Use the edit feature, it will bypass the character limit.

[Bigpurpleharness]

Greetings,

According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.

That's good, because I really do not like the idea of a single set being BIS through and through for every class of that role.

[Sephirah]

That's good, because I really do not like the idea of a single set being BIS through and through for every class of that role.

If Yoshi still wants to follow through with his claim that they intend for the best gear in the game to be reserved for coils, then it HAS to be better than the myth gear, as he said they always intend for casual players to be able to earn the myth stones for this level of gear.

That means that if allagan gear as a whole is not buffed to i95, then the "best" items in the game, are no longer reserved for coil.

[Teon]

Greetings,

According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.

Right you're there, tell him crybabies can learn to play, we don't want allagan weapons superior to our damned relic+1, thanks

[Akujin]

Hold up, so if 2.1 makes the weapons stronger than Relic+1, are we also going to get a way to upgrade the Relic weapons since they're supposed to scale with us as well?

[Teon]

Hold up, so if 2.1 makes the weapons stronger than Relic+1, are we also going to get a way to upgrade the Relic weapons since they're supposed to scale with us as well?

Nope, relic+1 will be a crapper weapon , this is the idiocity of Yoshi's liveletter (until we get a clarification)

[NefGP]

^ if that's the case then why in the sweet hell do we have the myth cap set so low? Not only is grinding tomes boring as all Hell, but it'l take you just short of TWO YEARS to get a full set of myth gear for each job.

And it's not even the "best" gear in the game. There's no place for that kind of nonsense anymore in games, I THOUGHT the folks at SE learned their lesson after the Mythic Weapons quests in FFXI but apparently not.