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  1. #191
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    Tano's Avatar
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    Kidel Aleron
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    What about people who passed Allagan Weapons because they already had Relic+1?
    Passed an Allagan Shield to the other tank last time since I already have Holy Shield+1 and it's not that different.

    Seriously, you can't change those things midway. People invested time and effort in Relics+1.
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  2. #192
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    Pellegri's Avatar
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    What about people who passed Allagan Weapons because they already had Relic+1?
    Passed an Allagan Shield to the other tank last time since I already have Holy Shield+1 and it's not that different.

    Seriously, you can't change those things midway. People invested time and effort in Relics+1.
    Lol effort running wp/ak. Look at it like this, if allagan weps are ilvl 95 they will have a single dps higher than ilvl 90 weps and have probably 2 extra stats. A single dps and 2 stats, do you honestly believe those will be noticed by the crowd already killing Twintania on a weekly basis? It's not even a 1% dmg or healing increase and you act like it's some kind of game changer.
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  3. #193
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    Synne Akmar
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'd like to point out that it takes about the same amount of effort to earn both gear. Really should be just equal. As some have trouble making static group to farm coil and some have issue of determination of grinding dungeons every week. Either way given time both content would become easily farmable because once a group becomes over-geared for those end game content it'll become obsolete.

    More over-geared people = more pugs making it through either type of content.
    If they limit to being coil as the only option to the next tier, they'll just bottle neck players to farm coils every week instead of doing other content that right now rarely anyone do.
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  4. #194
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    Grym Shadowheart
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by alien52 View Post
    If they limit to being coil as the only option to the next tier, they'll just bottle neck players to farm coils every week instead of doing other content that right now rarely anyone do.
    If 5 ilvl on a weapon (so will be approx 2 main stat and 3-4 secondary stats) is what stopping them farming the contents, I think they have got a lot more problems to look into then getting better gear.
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  5. #195
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    Gig Farron
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.
    So does this mean that they will ACTUALLY add in the shield and make it ilvl 95 for casters? We get kind of screwed with having a 1h scepter off twintania and no shield to go with it....
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  6. #196
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    Rivest's Avatar
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    Lesley Jordan
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Ye, luckly.
    Wait, so all the hassle getting a relic is a pure waste of time, running titan hm quadrillion times, when just a simple lucky roll of last chest will give us a better weapon?
    It was appropriate when on par, now coil is getting ridiculous. Let's add how fragmented and isolated are coil groups, with fixed spots, and a backup for emergencies

    Who the hell was asking devs this idiocity? some " l33t raider" crybabies ?

    I'm not gonna substitute my shiny relics +1 (3 weeks of myth wasted) because devs are so idiot to add a tier on allagan weapons , be sure. It's better if dev team wake up, raising relic+1 to ilvl 95 too
    Sorry, I cannot take this comment serious.

    Getting the Allagan Weapon is so much harder then getting the Relic +1 weapon, if anything they should raise the iLvl to 95 and raise the stats as well.
    In the end, Binding Coil is the hard endgame content and rewards should fit the difficulty.

    Relic + 1 is ridiculously easy to get.
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  7. #197
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    Good move SE, this should have been the case when it first started.
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  8. #198
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    How does it screw up a bis list? You're taking some of those pieces because of accuracy right? 5 ilvls extra for allagan gear isn't going to change the fact that you still need accuracy to hit things, those pieces with acc on them will continue to be better because of the acc whether they are ilvl 95 or 90. Just because the gear may be changing to 95 doesn't mean everyone needs to be an ilvl hero and take every higher ilvl pieces just to increase their epeen when in reality they are severely gimping themselves due to secondary stats.
    Some people forgo pieces because it has too much acc or not enough, along with looking at the other secondary stats. So from a min-max perspective, it might change 1-2 pieces to accommodate the item.
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  9. #199
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    Sephirah's Avatar
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    Nim Loki
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Hopefully this change will be to all coil gear. If they really intend for the best gear in the game to be from coils, then wearing full allagan needs to be a hands down upgrade from any of the myth items, not just 1 stat difference for mix/matching.
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    Last edited by Sephirah; 11-23-2013 at 12:13 PM.

    http://youtu.be/gGJPq1qmtrk - PLD Controller Tanking AK with no UI video

  10. #200
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    Synne Akmar
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grym View Post
    If 5 ilvl on a weapon (so will be approx 2 main stat and 3-4 secondary stats) is what stopping them farming the contents, I think they have got a lot more problems to look into then getting better gear.

    Talking under the assumption if it they meant it as the armors that is going up 5 ilevel. If it's just weapon then yes that is fine.
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