Allagan Gear getting buffed to ilvl95.

[Tano]

Greetings,

According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.

So what's the point of making a relic?

Relics are lv 80 as Moogle weapons (seriously, 5 bosses+1dungeon+money to get a relic, 1 boss to get a moogle weapon)
Relics+1 are inferior to allagan weapon even if it takes 3 weeks to make one.

what's the point? why should i bother farming tokens? also twintania doesn't even require lv90 gear (and CT will give us a lot of lv80 gear)

Also that's completely against this post by Naoki Yoshida: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...33#post1578533

Play through the Binding Coil of Bahamut and obtain gear from drops.
Collect Allagan tomestones of mythology to exchange for gear.

Although these methods are different, each allows for the acquisition of level 90 gear.

In short, players who have ample time to play are free to collect tomestones, or challenge the Binding Coil, and those who have less time can still acquire tomestones at their leisure. Despite the difference in time available to players, the game is designed so that everyone can potentially obtain item level 90 gear.

In 2.1 there will be no way to farm for lv95 gear or allagan equivalent. Obtaining the best gear will require a party and social skills that many players don't have (or don't want).

make token acquisition more difficult if it's "too easy", i don't care, but don't let the best gear be based on RGN, That's the same mistake you did in 1.0


make lv95 token from lv80-90 content so we can farm lv95 things and they're not "too easy", but don't kill token system.

[Pellegri]

In 2.1 there will be no way to farm for lv95 gear or allagan equivalent. Obtaining the best gear will require a party and social skills that many players don't have (or don't want).

That's too bad, the amount of care is just astronomically insignificant. It's 5 ilvls people even if it is for all gear or just weapons, it's not going to break your gameplay that you are missing those 5 ilvls. What content could you possibly need those few extra stat points for? CT is meant for people in ilvl 55 gear, extremes and even 1-4 in coil are meant for darklight. What are you doing that you need the absolute best of the best gear for if you cba to run the content that drops said gear?

Be glad they went with the WoW model of currency that lets you get high end gear in the first place while doing nothing more than easy 4mans. They could have just said screw you and made myth from coil only making all these arguments pointless as then it really would only be the players who are willing to put in effort getting the best gear.

[Sterob]

so does it mean allagan item stat will get buffed?

[Pellegri]

so does it mean allagan item stat will get buffed?

Ilvl has always determined the amount of stats on a piece of gear in mmos, so yes whether they only buff the ilvl of weapons or all the gear from coil it will all get slightly higher stats. By slightly I mean you're going to get atmost 1 core stat extra with maybe 2 vit and 1-2 secondary stats per piece. If it is for all the gear you'll be lucky to see a 2-3% increase in dmg or healing when compared to what you would have in full ilvl 90.

As a bard though I can tell you that even with the ilvl increase(if it is for all allagan gear) you will be gimping yourself far more by taking full allagan than you would having some myth pieces to go along with it. Full allagan does not have even close to the required accuracy that myth/allagan has, full allagan puts you 50 acc below the 470 cap you need for coil to have 100% hit chance.

[Keyln]

Like i asked before, when we have ilvl110+ gear, should you also be able to spam WP to get it?

Yes, you should.

[Noroi_Kisaragi]

Greetings,

According to the stream, Yoshida did in fact mention this upgrade to item level 95 was to be for Allagan weapons only due to the difficulty of turn 5, whereas the text on the Japanese and English Q&A post indicated equipment in general. Just to be certain, we will double check with Yoshi-P and let you know for sure.

Uh....if that's the reason, shouldn't the Monk Chest be ilvl95 as well? It only drops on turn 5...

[LittleArrow]

-snip-.

I truly hope this is the case. My favorite part about FFXIV: ARR's endgame system is how it feels somewhat like horizontal progression. The player has two options for great gear. They can either invest their time with myth tomes or get lucky with allagan. This is fantastic for everyone. If you have bad luck (like I do) you just need to put the time in and get great gear as you play. If you have great luck, you can invest your time in coil and save myth tomes for something else.

I truly hope this continues for future endgame content. I believe MMO players are done with the endless grind against RNG. Myth tomes are absolutely reasonable as well as having the secondary option of coil.

[TirionCrey]

I really hope it was just weapons. Cause if its armor as well this is gonna screw up my whole "BiS" setup I planned for (and already passed Allagan to others cause it wasn't my BiS...)

[Pellegri]

I really hope it was just weapons. Cause if its armor as well this is gonna screw up my whole "BiS" setup I planned for (and already passed Allagan to others cause it wasn't my BiS...)

How does it screw up a bis list? You're taking some of those pieces because of accuracy right? 5 ilvls extra for allagan gear isn't going to change the fact that you still need accuracy to hit things, those pieces with acc on them will continue to be better because of the acc whether they are ilvl 95 or 90. Just because the gear may be changing to 95 doesn't mean everyone needs to be an ilvl hero and take every higher ilvl pieces just to increase their epeen when in reality they are severely gimping themselves due to secondary stats.

[Alkimi]

So what's the point of making a relic?

what's the point? why should i bother farming tokens? also twintania doesn't even require lv90 gear (and CT will give us a lot of lv80 gear)

So you can actually fight twintania in the first place and not gimp your group and make the fight slower? You may aswell spend the tokens on a relic+1 so you have the best weapon for the fight itself.

Besides, there's people who haven't seen their weapons drop from primals in dozens of fights and you can spam them as much as you like so what are the chances you'll see the allagan weapon for your job any time soon with it's weekly lockout?