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  1. #31
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    Rathanyel's Avatar
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    Hyde Ravenheart
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50
    I prefer to remove internal release than blood for blood. Internal release is the OP issue because of teh constant procs of blood letter in conjuction with the River of blood. Removing Blood for blood Will nerf The class but removing internal release will balance it.
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  2. #32
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    Songi's Avatar
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    As long as Internal Release becomes exclusive to pugilist/monks only I'm cool with that. I just wouldn't see it being fair to stop only bards from getting it considering they have to level pugilist to 15 just to unlock the job.
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  3. #33
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    Fira Foxx
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    As long as Internal Release becomes exclusive to pugilist/monks only I'm cool with that. I just wouldn't see it being fair to stop only bards from getting it considering they have to level pugilist to 15 just to unlock the job.
    I agree with this. It would be very unfair to hinder a certian class/job and not any others from a cross class ability.
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  4. #34
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I doubt it would be Internal Release (I only read the first page as I'm eager to reply already)

    Due to the fact that ARC requires a PGL to become a BRD, so it's highly unlikely to happen.

    If the nerf will hit the cross-class skills, I'd say it'll be BFB and/or Invigorate.
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    IGN: Yvaine Isaulde
    World: Tonberry

  5. #35
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    Rhaine Faithslight
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    Are seriusly comparing what you need to beat the story and get DL gear with what you need to be competitive in Coil??? I mean even now we are below the damage of Blackmages and Monks, just think of how it will be if we lose this skills....
    Hate to tell you, bard is a support class :P

    They do have pretty great burst damage but yea overall dps on a long fight is generally much less.

    And like yoshi says, in endgame everyone takes atleast 1 bard because of how useful they are with songs, ranged silence is also nice.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 11-23-2013 at 10:49 PM.

  6. #36
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    Rose Wild
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhained View Post
    Hate to tell you, bard is a support class :P

    They do have pretty great burst damage but yea overall dps on a long fight is generally much less.
    Hate to tell you but this is NOT FF XI. Bard is a DPS, support doesn't exist.
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  7. #37
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    Leon_Stormrage's Avatar
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    Leon Stormrage
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhained View Post
    Hate to tell you, bard is a support class :P

    They do have pretty great burst damage but yea overall dps on a long fight is generally much less.

    And like yoshi says, in endgame everyone takes atleast 1 bard because of how useful they are with songs, ranged silence is also nice.
    Hate to tell you but here is not support class...
    The Bard is a DPS class with some utility BUT a DPS class.
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  8. #38
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    Apinaheebo's Avatar
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    Adelin Storm
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    Shiva
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    Archer Lv 54
    Remove lancer, give conjurer back, and let us use sleep as a cross class skill.
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  9. #39
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    Rhaine Faithslight
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_Stormrage View Post
    Hate to tell you but here is not support class...
    The Bard is a DPS class with some utility BUT a DPS class.
    Then why does bard have the lowest damage by a huge margin in coils but also has the best support skills? hmm?

    We can argue all we want but damage-wise in endgame, bard is not compareable to the other damage dealers at damage. And by the looks of things square enix is making this an even larger disparity in damage.

    So the fact remains is in long-drawn out fights, bards to not do damage compareable to that of the other damage dealing classes. And will do even less in the future.

    You think ppl invite bards to coils for their damage? This might surprise you but... they dont.


    Argue semantics all you want, doesn't change facts.
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    Last edited by Rhained; 11-24-2013 at 12:08 AM.

  10. #40
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Apinaheebo View Post
    Remove lancer, give conjurer back, and let us use sleep as a cross class skill.
    So. . .make it so that for endgame purposes, we only have MNK to draw skills from. Got it!
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