Thread: BARD 2.1 change [requesting letter from the producer explanation]

Originally Posted by des

*elitism*

we don't do T2 atm because some people in the FC are not ready for it, im not and endgame rusher i dont run ahead just for the sake of loot, plus since when has where someone is in a game determined their skill? a bad player can beat the game but suck and a good player can be new to this particular game but be great at it.

Oh and btw this is the 3rd character i have made because i restarted a few times due to not liking how my characters turned out and i took a month break so it makes sense im not as far as i could be.

Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings, everyone!

Based on fan translations of the interview Famitsu held with Yoshi-P recently, there seems to be a misconception about what was said regarding bard adjustments in 2.1. Contrary to the rumor that an ability would be taken away from bard and moved to a different job, bard will not be losing a main ability.

This confusion appears to stem from Yoshi-P comparing party formations to a puzzle and the jobs being the puzzle pieces. The goal for balancing the game is to make sure that no single job could complete the puzzle alone, and he feels that bard was given too many pieces of the puzzle.

Respect, dear Yoshi. Your position is very clever

You know, stuff like this:

Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart

*whiny rant*

Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart

*elitism*

towards players that have progressed a lot further/cleared content you haven't and probably won't in weeks/months doesn't exactly help you with your statements.

You don't use it? Well congrats because the content you have played so far doesn't really required it. However in the only endgame dungeon (that you haven't cleared) the ability comes in quite handy.

Can you play the whole game without Invigorate? Yes, you can! That still doesn't mean it's or will be a good/fair decision considering melee classes (that already are ahead in damage right now) get buffed with the next patch and Bard that is already a lower tier DPS will get nerfed. So it's understandable that people are upset.

Depending on how harsh the nerf is I'll have to find a new job to play for Twintania as we have 2 Bards right now. Not because of utility or awesome DPS, but just because we have two people that like to play it and the damage is enough to kill her. However with 2.1 that might be not feasible anymore, who knows.

Originally Posted by ProxyTooMuch

Invigorate is equal to 40 seconds of Army's Paeon worth of TP. Every 2 minutes. That is MP which could be spent on Foe Requiem.

1/3 of the time (40 seconds divided by 120 seconds) you are nerfing your own damage by 20% as opposed to buffing the casters' damage by 20%, which works out to about a 13% damage nerf if you have 1 caster doing exactly as much damage as you do (they usually do more). It's a 26% damage nerf if you run with 2 casters.

A 26% damage nerf is not something to be brushed off lightly.

did you even read the part where i said i wished the bard was being buffed?

Originally Posted by Pellegri

It's the same thing with melee, melee are getting buffed because the masses can't move out of things fast enough to continue their rotation where they would be higher end damage dealers. Bards are getting nerf because the masses do not understand how bard works and that because of it's support and movement it is meant to do less damage than everything else, people don't see that though because they lack the skill many bards have that they are complaining about being so good compared to them.

Yeah yeah it sucks to get nerfed.

But in 2.2 we will have this post about lets say monks, blaming clueless noob bards for not having a clue and getting them nerfed. Because SE is nice, they are awesome, they would never just tinker with your favorite class! Nope, gotta be those mean skill-less anonymous nobodies that can sway Yoshi's opinions with but a cry! You think you're right but posts like yours are made by everyone blaming everyone at every patch.

Originally Posted by Megido

Yeah yeah it sucks to get nerfed.

But in 2.2 we will have this post about lets say monks, blaming clueless noob bards for not having a clue and getting them nerfed. Because SE is nice, they are awesome, they would never just tinker with your favorite class! Nope, gotta be those mean skill-less anonymous nobodies that can sway Yoshi's opinions with but a cry! You think you're right but posts like yours are made by everyone blaming everyone at every patch.

I agree with this the official patch notes are not even out yet and people don't know what they are gunna do to Bard yet everyone is screaming abuse at the developers.
Just wait and see what is going to happen and if it is daft to what they are going to do to Bard complain then... but complaining about something you know nothing about just yet is sad and time consuming nonsense.
I understand that the nerf isn't needed I agree bard need a buff to support skills.