Thread: BARD 2.1 change [requesting letter from the producer explanation]

Originally Posted by Apinaheebo

Remove lancer, give conjurer back, and let us use sleep as a cross class skill.

I agree with this. I think the whole mobility thing is the "niche" or mechanic of an archer/bard and they should let us keep that. If they are going to modify the cross class skills, they could just change it back to ARC/CON. But then I foresee a problem where there may be many bards who do not have CON leveled so that possibly may not be a practical solution unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Pellegri

Removing lancer and giving us conjurer however causes another problem. You know what titan/turn 2/4/5 would be like without invigorate? Having to sit there for 20secs of gimped dps so we can regain our own tp just sounds amazing when we could either be contributing more dmg to the fight or using a more beneficial song that affects more than just us. If they were to remove lancer they would have to then rebalance our tp gain so it would make up for the loss of invigorate, something I highly doubt they would put the thought into and just keep us gimped without invig or a tp regen buff.

You speak truth, I forgot about Invigorate which I use religiously in every long battle... I was thinking more like swap PGL with CON but like I said that would be too impractical.

The problem is that SE made arc1.0 a ranged dps but then made brd out of it and it was support 1.0 and then made it into ranged dps 2.0 because the DF/game doesn't have a "support spot" so now SE is stuck trying to figure out where brd should fit. Only solution is to pick what it's true roll should be and stick with it. Make it full ranged dps and give it a dps LB or make it support and add that kind of a class into the DF/game. That is my opinion. Once again it just stems from SE's lack of proper planing and foresight.

Originally Posted by Cinicus

...

I really think that the healer LB is pretty useful when the healers die or when they need to focus on heal the remaining party members, and I like the pliability of the Bard, is has the less dps of all the dps classes, but because he swap it for utility to the party. I really don't care so much about the nerf, I don't have BFB because I saw it coming and do a rasonable dps, but I think that is unfair the way that the people talk about the Bard like "You are a support class and only must boost me and let me do bigger numbers, or let me heal without worry about my MP"

the fact of the matter is that bards have their utility and bring it along with their DPS. this 'nerf' people are going crazy about isn't even all that serious. bards will still be wanted f

still be wanted for coil regardless. only difference is that coil won't need multiple bards and there will be more room for other dps.

Originally Posted by Lupus

still be wanted for coil regardless. only difference is that coil won't need multiple bards and there will be more room for other dps.

I seriously don't think coil has ever needed multiple bards. I'm not sure why anyone thinks it does. . .

Originally Posted by Viridiana

I seriously don't think coil has ever needed multiple bards. I'm not sure why anyone thinks it does. . .

The only time where multiple bards are viable is Turn 2. Even then, a smart MNK or PLD can rotate silence with each other or the Bard. High Voltage is very predictable.