BARD 2.1 change [requesting letter from the producer explanation]

**Fantasy9** · 11-23-2013 01:38 AM

This just makes me worry that it will lower our DPS even more than it already is. My DRG does better dmg with a DL Lance and DL belt and gloves and a couple heterios gear than my Full DL with Relic +1 BRD especially when we lose 20% damage when we have a song active. ARC/BRDs are not OP, they just seem that way because they are more mobile. People need to take a chill pill. The reason not may people played bards in 1.23 was because they were deemed useless and taking up a slot that a class with better dmg could fill. Once again, BLM will be chosen before a BRD will.

**matic** · 11-23-2013 04:42 AM

Some people seem confused over what role Bard plays in endgame.

**AkashiXI** · 11-23-2013 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by matic

Some people seem confused over what role Bard plays in endgame.

Don't you feel they should be? How useful are songs in a serious, play-by-play situation? Foe Requiem is by far the most potent song we have, Bards being able to use it at any given time (except our own DoTs, which surprisingly aren't elemental based). Ballad is good, but situational and rarely used for any long period. Paeon is used for burning, which Requiem is still better unless your DPS outnumbers your Ranged by a good amount. It's been said over and over again: Bard is nowhere near the best DPS in this game, and we aren't a support class in practice (only by design). Limiting our DPS will put us further behind the class who is already LEAGUES ahead, which conveniently will get a buff.

I'm not saying Bard should be 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd in DPS. What I'm saying is Bard is already behind in those ranks, and Melee DPS needs to get a buff and be done with it.

**NeonC** · 11-23-2013 05:01 AM

What do parsers say about Bards in Coil?

**WiseWolfHolo** · 11-23-2013 05:10 AM

I do not agree with these balance updates at all, boost monk which is already top dps in the game and nerf the dps of the lowest dps class in the game because too many casuals think bard is taken over their dragoon because bard has a higher dps? No bard is taken over your crappy dragoon because we are a supporter not because of our dps. Casuals are a plague to the game, QQ and whine about nerfing something they do not understand.

As for parsers I still believe they are wrong, but again in terms of dps in coil I fall somewhere in 2nd or 3rd of the 4 dps as a bard with ofcourse out highest dps at all times being a monk usually around 220.

**Comicbookguy** · 11-23-2013 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by NeonC

What do parsers say about Bards in Coil?

3rd behind either BLM or Monk. Sometime second if Monk dies.

**NeonC** · 11-23-2013 05:15 AM

This is including songs? Either way, it is pretty clear with that what role they play...wait for it...a DPS ROLE~

**Allyrion** · 11-23-2013 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo

I do not agree with these balance updates at all, boost monk which is already top dps in the game and nerf the dps of the lowest dps class in the game because too many casuals think bard is taken over their dragoon because bard has a higher dps? No bard is taken over your crappy dragoon because we are a supporter not because of our dps. Casuals are a plague to the game, QQ and whine about nerfing something they do not understand.

As for parsers I still believe they are wrong, but again in terms of dps in coil I fall somewhere in 2nd or 3rd of the 4 dps as a bard with ofcourse out highest dps at all times being a monk usually around 220.

Accept monks as your overlords and all will be fine.

**Leon_Stormrage** · 11-23-2013 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dmer

PLD > WAR = buff WAR. This is coming in 2.1
BRD > all other DPS classes/jobs = nerf BRD. This is also coming in 2.1

The other dps doesn't know how to play the class that they chose so nerf bard and the other people will not feel bad anymore >_<

**WiseWolfHolo** · 11-23-2013 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Allyrion

Accept monks as your overlords and all will be fine.

Idc who is the highest dps in the game, I mean I could just roll monk if I wanted instead of being the QQ casuals, but I am just confused about why buff the already highest DPS in the game and nerf the lowest.

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