Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[PArcher]

Why all the hate? I'm probably askign for trouble here but you know what they say about curiosity.

My experiences?

Tanks and SCH don't care, WHM only like them for Ballad, all the other DPS (melee especially) compete with them and are often pushed aside for them. Unless you're in a static group, being a melee or SMN it can be hard to find a group to do anything because BRD are seen as godly DPS and have Ballad (BLM too, outside of WP speed runs, which then its all "LF BRD + BLM for WP SR"). I see 4-mans often shout for BRD + something else. 8-mans have more flexibility, but when groups want 2 BRD you have 2 slots for 4 classes (5 if they'll take a third BRD with them).

Yes, I'm lucky to have people to run dungeons with now, and have WHM up (and soon WAR), but my time shouting was not fun. And there are tons of people out there that rely on PUGs to run dungeons.

No, I don't hate BRD just for being BRD, I mean, you really do need 1 for most 8-mans, but except for Turn 2 (for Silence) 2 BRD just isn't necessary; I'd rather have 2 melee (DRG), a BRD, and a SMN/BLM...heck, that's our 'normal' static (BLM/SMN depending on who wants to heal). However, I do dislike FoTM BRD who blame everyone else for their nerfs. Kinda like how I dislike a lot of PAL because they don't want to share tanking with WAR.