Please don't remove Invigorate from BRD ><

[NightWrath]

Brd already has a TP regen ability Peaon. You would have to use that more when you aoe instead of never using it like you do now, if they took away lnc skills.

i have no idea where u took that i never used it, since i use it a lot on some wp sr with no blm/smn and also on turn 4. so... anyway, even with the music it wouldmt ne worth using aoe because the proc chance is ridiculous and u would lose all ur mana to aoe and keep rod after.

Without invigorate i would never spam aoe on turn 4 again by sure,

[permbanned]

Removing LNC skills will kill the job. Think about it.

If BRD loses invigorate, the only way they can get TP up is paeon. BRD burns through tp at a moderate pace on its own, but once you start throwing in Rain of Death it burns through it substantially faster. Add in AoE spam and there's no question that they burn through their TP faster than any other job in the game.

BRD will end up having to rely on paeon to keep their TP up, which means no requiem and no ballad. The only way to get ballad as well is to add another BRD to the group and have one ballad and the other paeon so both can be kept up for a long duration of time. But the problem is they get -20% dmg debuff the entire time. Add that to the fact that they'll lose BfB, and you have a severely gimped DPS class taking up 2 slots in your party, and we all know how great the majority of people are with DPS checks in this game already. Why even bother taking BRD anymore? DRG and MNK are getting buffed, which already do higher DPS than BRD. It would kill the job completely or at the very best turn it into the job that nobody wants to play but someone has to if healer MP becomes an issue in a fight.

[NightWrath]

@permbanned
100% agreed, ppl would bring bard for turn 2 on the best scenario.

Sorry was to be on the same post.

[Mergadeth]

I spend my time keeping Mages Ballad up. I don't know how I would be able to manage my TP and help the healers at the same time. TP song is supposed to be for the group and not yourself only. So then wouldn't it make people more inclined to take two bards to every fight if this is the case. So one can keep each ballad up?

Guess we will find out on Dec. 17th......

[KHShadowrunner]

I just wish they'd make them have to stand to use abilities. That's all. Keep everything as is, just remove the one thing that bard can do that no other job can efficiently do.

If I can do the entirety of Haukke Manor solo because I can kite and use abilities, you know something's off.

[Fantasy9]

I just wish they'd make them have to stand to use abilities. That's all. Keep everything as is, just remove the one thing that bard can do that no other job can efficiently do.

If I can do the entirety of Haukke Manor solo because I can kite and use abilities, you know something's off.

I want to see a video of this being true or your just blowing smoke so ARC/BRDs get nerfed.

[KHShadowrunner]

I want to see a video of this being true or your just blowing smoke so ARC/BRDs get nerfed.

You can ask the 4 or 5 people I've pulled the entire dungeon with without a tank because the tank derped and needed to repair.

It's not hard. You just number, run in a big circle around the stairs (or around the entire sqare if you're in the basement), and blow your abilities on the main target. DPS will be light enough that they wont pull it off you, and if you DO happen to have a healer, the healer can heal the other DPS and peel one off while you solo another.

I've done it plenty. I'm sure you can too if you try.

[KHShadowrunner]

Stuff

For instance, boss 2 -

Focus is on the imp, bring it to the middle by targeting it first and then run around in a large circle around the room, the skeleton mob will eventually get into the lock trying to use it's AoE move, and will stop doing damage. This leaves you with just the imp to DPS down, then tap the skeleton boss while he continues to chase you.

For the final boss, circle shoot the boss, bomb adds explode on their own so simply keep distance, when the other adds spawn, do a large circle around the entire room, you can out-range the Fire III's, and the eye will constantly try to do the TP attack (Because it's timer based and never catches up).

[KHShadowrunner]

If you have a healer and dps with you, the fights become even more trivial as you just tell the healer to leave you alone and keep the DD up while they do their thing to the main target.

Maybe it's just that Haukke Manor is a joke though as all of the bosses have this sort of nuance that you can get around.

[NightWrath]

I just wish they'd make them have to stand to use abilities. That's all. Keep everything as is, just remove the one thing that bard can do that no other job can efficiently do.

If I can do the entirety of Haukke Manor solo because I can kite and use abilities, you know something's off.

Man listen things like this make me lose faith on humanity.