Thread: 2.1 Crystal Tower

Originally Posted by Seobit

Do you really think any serious player cares about who's first to clear a dungeon that's meant to be cleared by a pug in AK gear? Anyone who's going to try to claim fame out of this is laughable.

Well the concern of many of us was the fact that u will not be able to enjoy the new 24 men content with a premade 24 men team (for most cases 24 of your fc members). Playing with 16 other pugs just diminishes the raiding experience.

If you're saying this content is designed specifically for casuals to cruise through then i'll rather they make a similar system to LFR where u have a mode for casuals where they can fool around all they want and a mode for people who want to take it seriously.

Honestly i think they just do not have the capabilities(hardware/coding/whatever) at the moment to manage 24men content and yet they are rushing out the 24men content with subpar standards.

Originally Posted by Bayman

I am in a FC. I am in a static coil group. I have been running with the same group of friends since launch and most of them before this game came out. So... shush and leave your tropes to yourself.

Also, I got my relic with my FC. Unlike someone who had to pay another guild to do it for them.... http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-s%21%21/page6

Best callout, ever.

In WoW they came out with a pugable raid, & in many peoples eyes it ruined the raiding community. It made people rage on new players, and visa-versa It also made people think raiding was easy and faceroll, & then they would QQ when they found the "real" raid too hard and demanded it be nerfed. Nonraiders or casual raiders are the majority of players in any MMO, and companies tend to cater to them. This is not a bad thing, as long as companies realize the raiding community is strong too, and lots of these nonraiders join the game cause their raider friends suggested it. Raiders leave, casuals leave.
They are adding a lot in this patch for nonraiders, and that is good to have a vast amount to do outside of raiding and just for people who don't raid. But if they start dumbing down the majority of their raiding content, they will see a mass exodus like what happened in Rift and SWTOR of recent past.

Originally Posted by BlackRosesXIV

Crap, only made it this far :/

inconstructive comments ftl

CT sounds like its going to be fairly easy . But hopefully fun , I don't care if its paint by numbers , as long as its fun .

The PUG factor for CT was highly anticipated from earlier announcements. They didn't announce anything unexpected for CT. If that disappoints you, maybe you should read more?

Cancel your sub, or learn to love PvP. There isn't gonna be much to do until 2.2, unless Extreme Modes are so relentlessly brutal that they take us a couple months to clear (unlikely).