Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[KHShadowrunner]

no please - explain it to me.

how ON EARTH can it be more complicated and more time consuming to program an alliance feature while programming the whole freaking Crystal Tower?

Mechanics, overlay, UI interface, PEt interaction, Priority system, Loot system, random distriubition system, hate mechanics, other features..

oh wait, you thought that this would only be the crystal tower? The entire game would be affected by a new system involving more than 8 people.

They could have gated it using some kind of token system to allow for groups to form a token at the enterance to CT I guess, but then you would have griefers who sit at the gate, ruin your party of 3, and then just do jack-all to ruin your day.

So Earth was explained to you, Cyrstal tower has existed for a long, long, long time. So eh.

[Phe]

Mechanics, overlay, UI interface, PEt interaction, Priority system, Loot system, random distriubition system, hate mechanics, other features..

how are these things different from a duty finder alliance compared to a pre-made one?

i'm only talking about this feature:

building an alliance on myself and not with duty finder.
they can limit the alliance feature to this dungeon.

[KHShadowrunner]

okay i guess i have to ask more detailed.
i'm only talking about this feature:

building an alliance on myself and not with duty finder.
they can limit the alliance feature to this dungeon.

I fail to see what's different from my reply.

For example:

Let's say you form an alliance of 24 people. Before entering the CT, your white mage casts protect.

Who gets the buff?

[Orophin]

I'm personally not in a FC that can field a whole alliance for CT, but I'm still disappointed that whatever 8 man group I end up with is going to be matched up with 16 other completely random people. There are other people on my own local server I'd rather group with than some of the asshats I've heard about afk'ing in CM and stuff.

[EgweneALvere]

I know myself and my free company are pretty disappointed to not be able to do the 24 man content in groups larger than 8. We were really looking forward to doing Crystal Tower as a free company and now.....we can't. I hope they either add the alliance feature in or allow you to queu with two other groups of your choosing thru the same server party finder.

[Mihael_Longclaw]

I know myself and my free company are pretty disappointed to not be able to do the 24 man content in groups larger than 8. We were really looking forward to doing Crystal Tower as a free company and now.....we can't. I hope they either add the alliance feature in or allow you to queu with two other groups of your choosing thru the same server party finder.

EGWENE?! YOU TRANSFERRED TO BALMUNG?!!?!?!?!

[Sylve]

Since you cant enter without a premade 8 at minimum, You would only ever be grouped with OTHER premade 8s.
So 9 times out of 10, you will enter with 2 other FC crafted groups. Sometimes you'll enter with a RevToll shout group.

The issue with queuing as a 24 man alliance is likely due to the current cap of 8 players to a Party. They probably want a create a proper UI for forming such a group, or to limit it to Alliance only content.

[Fyce]

"LFM CT full gear 80+, exp. 9/24"

They want to avoid that.

Edit: BTW, make 3 groups of 8, click the DF on the same time... magic happens. If it doesn't put you with the two other groups, just do the run or leave, then try again.

[KHShadowrunner]

With that in mind, I could see a system where you use a sort of token-based way to enter the CT as a full alliance. So say you have 3 groups of 8, the Ldr of group 1 sends a request to the leader of group 2, and this creates a token. Ldr of group 1 or two, having been marked as having the token, send a request to the ldr of group 3. The 3 leaders can then select to enter the tower, and the game waits for all 3 to accept the request before beginning the dungeon.

But hten how does it handle individual group members being AFK? (you'd assume this isn't a problem, but pre-mades aren't all FC members)

And could you create the system to know that there's just 2? (Yes.)

I'm not saying there aren't ways. I'm just saying it'll come in due-time.

[Naunet]

"LFM CT full gear 80+, exp. 9/24"

They want to avoid that.

Edit: BTW, make 3 groups of 8, click the DF on the same time... magic happens.

Who cares if people make premades with particular gear requirements? It doesn't affect you; you can still queue by yourself or with likeminded friends. As for your "solution" - it doesn't work for dungeons now when trying to replace, say, a tank who dropped; it won't work for CT.

Not allowing more than 8 people to queue at a time is absurd. Once again, Squeenix proves they have only about 3/4 of the necessary understanding of the MMO market in just about everything they do.