Can't make a full premade for Crystal Tower...

[Namasu]

And with the Item Level restrictions in place on the Duty Finder, it will be Impossible to have a party in there that is 'undergeared', you will only get people in correct gear for the Dungeon, or people that are overgeared for the Dungeon.

Doesn't matter geared or undergeared. The whole point of most FC with 24 or more members right now is to prepare for crystal tower and to play with man of the people we know, not to be forced to split up and go play with strangers.

You can give me a whole alliance with decked out myth/allagan/relic+1, but I'd rather pass to play with undergeared FC members. Again, people just wants to play with their friends, and gear check is not the main concern in this issue.

[Namasu]

They stated that the functionality for doing CT with 3 FC premades will NOT make it in for 2.1, however they will try to get it in for 2.2.

Hell, they may just patch it in between 2.1 and 2.2.
What would you rather, no CT at all until 24man premades can join it, or having 8man CT with the potential to group with your FC buddies in 2.1?

Here's what I will do: queue up for with 3 parties from my FC at same time. If we get in, good. If not then we leave, eat the penalty and do extreme primal for fun.

The only ones that will actually lose time now will be the the pugs that I dodged, which in turn will go on the forum to rage about how broken the duty finder is, which in turn will convince the dev team to remove CT from DF. If that happen, then more FC and community interaction for every server!

Win-win for everyone in the long run.

[Xatsh]

Here's what I will do: queue up for with 3 parties from my FC at same time. If we get in, good. If not then we leave, eat the penalty and do extreme primal for fun.

The only ones that will actually lose time now will be the the pugs that I dodged, which in turn will go on the forum to rage about how broken the duty finder is, which in turn will convince the dev team to remove CT from DF.

Win-win for everyone.

It is a plan hopefully enough people do it.

[Tupsi]

They stated that the functionality for doing CT with 3 FC premades will NOT make it in for 2.1, however they will try to get it in for 2.2.

Hell, they may just patch it in between 2.1 and 2.2.
What would you rather, no CT at all until 24man premades can join it, or having 8man CT with the potential to group with your FC buddies in 2.1?

The funny thing is? It should be reversed, but that is why they delayed CT as is, to make it DFable so what better way than make it ONLY possible with random DF people and not premade like every other activity in this game currently? In 2.2 there will definitely be zero reason to do it with a premade group unless they update CT then since 2.2 is a major patch which means 3 months after 2.1 lands which 2.2 as we know is a coil update. So 4-5 months from now it'll be virtually useless to go into with your FC.

[Sentinel]

This is absolutely stupid, this should get corrected. Many FCs are recruiting and constructing their structures around 24 man and now they tell us they won't allow it.

[Seal100]

Castrum Meridianum runs, now with a crystal coating and 16 added unreliable factors!
Brought to you by Square Enix, enjoy your rage quits everybody Goodbye!

But seriously, this is potentially a disappointment. Even with gear checks pugging Coil is a... pain.
However my main fear now is that this raid isn't going to have any fun and difficult mechanics due to the emphasis on pugging. Instead I get the feeling that the complexity of the raid mechanics will be at the same level as CM, don't get me wrong I enjoyed CM, but it's not the kind of thing I would want to do over and over again for ilvl 80 gear.
I want the challenge to be in the fight, not in the managing of 16 loose cannons.

All that being said however, I haven't tried the content and maybe what Yoshi said wasn't clear, or we severely misinterpreted it. Coil offered some interesting fights so I know SE has the capability to make CT fun. I tend to look at things from a negative perspective so hopefully my gut feeling is wrong

[CygnusMajor]

This is the most disapointing news I have seen since this game launched. I didn't make an FC so I could play with a bunch of pugs. Please change this so we can all

[Arkista]

This does suck. My LS leader made a LS for CT and now there will be no point in it.

[Ramzal]

"Q10: Will you be able to form your own alliances and enter Crystal Tower?

A10: In patch 2.1 you will not be able to form your own alliance. You can enter with a party of eight."

Dumbest thing ever. I do not want to be forced to use the duty finder to find the other 16 people. Why in the hell wouldn't you be able to enter with your own pre-made group of 24 (or alliance of 3 8-man parties). After hearing this I'm considerably less enthusiastic about Crystal Tower since now you'll have to deal with the nonsense of random people in Duty Finder......

I maybe the only person in the world who is cool with this. XD I don't mind it, but if they were to make it so that you CAN form your own 24 person alliance that's fine too.

Go with the flow~(o_o)~

[Mamakat]

Such a bummer We were really looking forward to doing CT as a FC because we're always all split up doing different things it was something that we could do together. /sigh

I ~totally~ understand making it DFable for people who aren't able to find enough people to enter or their schedules don't match up with their FC etc... but not having the option to take a premade alliance... I'd be willing to wait for 2.1 personally for this to be possible. But that's just me.

To quote my kids "aww pickles!!"