Dragoons viable in WP speed run?

[Razgard]

So what exactly do you do as a DRG in speed runs? I did one speed run with BRD through DF, it took about 17 minutes but all I did was Doomspike spam with blood for blood and internal release.

edit - d'oh HT buff.

[EasymodeX]

Something about that 10% damage buff from Heavy Thrust.

[Madoka]

I've only run WP like 3 times, and never once actually speedran it. What's a SMN's role when replacing BLM? I understand to tri-disaster to keep things out of the boss rooms and murder tonberries but not much else

[Vigarita]

So my Dragoon can replace a BLM, technically, that will work out since my FC has a level 50 of every job BUT BLM, so this will come in handy with getting the rest of my DL gear, and getting my RW +1

[BlueMage]

BLM AOE is getting nerfed quite noticeably, between the double dipping exploit getting fixed and Bliz 2 damage getting cut in half. BLM will still be the best AOE, but not to the point of "You shouldn't bring anything else when it comes to AOE damage." as it is now.

DRG already does better AOE damage than BRD, and most groups don't need (or just dont use) ballad/RoD. I'd already rather bring a Dragoon than a Bard, but I always bring two BLMs. I'm not sure if any group (unless they're woefully undergeared and the healer is running OOM) will need ballad at all with the threat increases coming for tanks with the patch. And RoD is getting changed.

People will still prefer to bring at least one BLM for real speedruns, just for the CC. Yeah, SMN can CC with Tri-Disaster, but most don't and/or don't know how to, along with most non-SMNs (usually those forming parties) not knowing they can do it. Actually, people post-patch will probably still continue to demand only BLM+BRD, cause lolpeople.

[Warrlordd]

considering DRG is better aoe than a monk, and then you'd get the awesome single target for quick boss kills sure is viable :P

[Rochetm]

Where do people keep getting this drg/mnk are bad at aoe from?

The only bad part about drg/mnk aoe is that we are limited by TP so if things don't die quickly we can run out of steam and be sol. However in WP the pulls are spread out and huge which is perfect for melee aoe. We have time to rebuild TP and cooldowns to reset.

Are we as good as blm? No but then the same goes for everyone else.

And if you truly wanted high speed runs I would take a war, whm and 2x blm. I do 11-12 minute runs all the time with my War in DL + relic, a whm, blm and some other dps.