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  1. #81
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Interesting. In German it is only "Sabik". Lahabrea describes it as "concentrated power of darkness: Sabik".
    Interesting. Japanese may have been the only language to use those exact words of Black Auracite originally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Interesting. In German it is only "Sabik". Lahabrea describes it as "concentrated power of darkness: Sabik".
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Interesting. Japanese may have been the only language to use those exact words of Black Auracite originally.
    In EN's script for The Sorrow of Werlyt, the Heart of Sabik is indeed identified as a piece of black auracite; the ones used to power the Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, and Diamond Weapons are all noted to be artificial copies.

    Even if the JP script was the only one that originally identified the Heart as a piece of auracite, we've known what it is (at least in EN) for quite a while. (My "issue" with it is that they had to try and link it to Ultima, as if she's the only conceivable source of auracite in existence; but then again just about everything Ivalice related irks me, so don't read too much into it. Lol.)
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    (My "issue" with it is that they had to try and link it to Ultima, as if she's the only conceivable source of auracite in existence;
    You know, I didn't even think of "they probably connected Sabik to Ultima because it's auracite and <Austin Powers voice> that's her bag, baby", I just assumed they connected Sabik to Ultima because it felt like the natural thing to do to an object that had the Ultima magick in it because <guy reading the title of Austin's book voice> that is also her bag, baby." Now I have extra curiosities about how it all unfolded.

    Ever since Lahabrea called Ultima a "sliver of his god's power" I've been hoping they'd find some way to string some of those ideas together. Darkness, rift, Ultima (the magick), Ultima (the transdimensional force), Ultima (the High Seraph, in totality), Ultima (the High Seraph, which the statue made sound like a primal based on the force and resulting legends), and maybe even Altima (the Ascian).

    You know me, I try to find a way to accept and make sense of things even if my first knee-jerk was, "Thanks, I hate it" ... but I'm weirdly, unexpectedly ok with this.

    (Watch, I'm gonna start archiving the 4-language sheet and cross-reference quotes and remember something that makes me table-flip.)

    Again, the NPC dialog menu makes me suspect we haven't heard the last of this...
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 06-07-2023 at 07:46 AM.

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    Connecting the black auracite Sabin to High Seraph Ultima didn’t feel necessary for Pandaemonium (or Werlyt or Praetorium)’s stories but it felt necessary to fold that final boss of Orbonne into XIV’s worldbuilding. The Ivalice Raid auracite could have remained just mind and body warping stones also commonly abused in the war that led to the 13th’s demise because it was similar enough to Odin and extreme primal tempering. But Ultima the High Seraph was this dangling ‘Giant Evil Space Flea from Nowhere’ and the linger that the rest of the storylines ignored her the more blatant the orphaned plot point she was.

    Still don’t want her in MSQ, but now that there’s two places she’s referenced I’m satisfied.
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  5. #85
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Again, the NPC dialog menu makes me suspect we haven't heard the last of this...
    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    Still don’t want her in MSQ, but now that there’s two places she’s referenced I’m satisfied.
    If the theory about 7.0 being in Dalmasca is correct, then I suspect it'll come back into play really soon. They may just finally come out with what Ultima actually is then, I suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    If the theory about 7.0 being in Dalmasca is correct, then I suspect it'll come back into play really soon. They may just finally come out with what Ultima actually is then, I suspect.
    Given the suspicious focus on auracite this expansions story patch cycle/normal raid and the implications that come with it, that people get corrupted by the stones, that power corrupts straight up LOTR material (one ring to rule them all), I'd say there is a good possibility for a sort of Ultima/Jenova type of deal coming soon, coupled with a political powder keg which a good chunk of Ilsabard/former Garlemald appears to be.
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