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    Yes another CT thread but i have a serious question

    Ok so , flame me i don't care ill read through the rift raft to find the answers i seek.

    progression goes like this

    DL gear
    CT gear
    Coil gear

    SO that being said you can do coil in full DL
    so why waste the time on CT? you can have full DL and be running coil in a week or two?
    am i the only losing faith in this game? i want to love it so much, and its not the lock out that's killing it, its the management. seriously who ever said this would be a good idea is a failed leader and couldn't design a pop up book correctly. now if you made it impossible to do Coil in DL then YES CT and lock out would make sense. All they managed to do is create content that once the hype is over no one will do?
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    it's not like you drop full allagan in a week or two. In the meanwhile, you drop a middle tier gear to make things easier. Trust me-from 4° turn onward you need it.
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    Coil Turns 1-3 Are about an IL65 minimum, I'd say.
    Coil Turn 4 is about an IL70 minimum.
    Coil Turn 5 probably is an IL75-80 minimum (who expects to beat Twintania with just DL?)

    For those who are Clearing Twintania, the only purpose of Crystal Tower gear would either be for ALTERNATE CLASSES or for VANITY SYSTEM released in 2.2. However the fact remains that less than 5% of the population of the game (30,000) are clearing Twintania. The fact remains that probably less than 10% of the subscription of the game (60,000) are actually even doing Coil on a weekly basis.

    So you ask why to run CT? With the Myth Cap increased, CT is dropping Philo and Myth. When 2.2/2.3 comes out with the 3rd Tome, it will probably also have the 3rd Tome added to it. What you hear on the forums (and you yourself are) is the Vocal Minority. Also, you can keep running CT each week until the 1 item you want for that week drops and you obtain it (so long as you aren't Greed-Spamming/Not-Rolling and obtain something else).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    it's not like you drop full allagan in a week or two. In the meanwhile, you drop a middle tier gear to make things easier. Trust me-from 4° turn onward you need it.

    i understand you wont get full Coil in a week, but why would i waste my time on CT when im busy running coil for higher ilvl gear? yes you can supplement your coil gear with CT gear and look a hot mess but it isnt NEEDED, it should be NEEDED, and yes i understand you have a better chance getting 80+ ilvl gear with two chances ( coil and CT) of rolling on gear but why waste time? im not a hardcore player i just yesterday got my relic and as i plan out my to do list for end game spending a night playing CT when i can be doing coil has alot more incentive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnist View Post
    snip).
    so with the myth cap increased i can get my ilvl 90 gear (myth) that much faster right? by not doing ct and speed running WP? and with the CT lock out, once u do it your done for the week there is no re running of anything.
    my point being is that CT has no purpose for a lock out period if your increasing the Myth cap that allows you with coil drops to gear your Char pretty quick for turns 4-5. so why waste time on long content for gear you most likely wont need and only be able to do it once?

    475 myth tomes a week that's one piece every two weeks, that's ( if your lucky) 2 coil drops a in the same time period leaving you with 6 pieces in a month of ilvl 90 gear. SO why would i want 4 pieces of ilvl80 gear?
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    Last edited by Stryker12; 12-10-2013 at 11:35 PM.

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    I'll do it to get the healer set, while using my mythos to get the dragoon relic and hopefully doing Coil as tank and casters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnist View Post
    So you ask why to run CT? With the Myth Cap increased, CT is dropping Philo and Myth. When 2.2/2.3 comes out with the 3rd Tome, it will probably also have the 3rd Tome added to it. What you hear on the forums (and you yourself are) is the Vocal Minority. Also, you can keep running CT each week until the 1 item you want for that week drops and you obtain it (so long as you aren't Greed-Spamming/Not-Rolling and obtain something else).
    Are we assuming it's a 1 week lockout on gear for Crystal tower? Or was that confirmed somewhere?
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    Millerna Astor
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    CT sounds fun, that's all I need to go there ...

    As for wasting time.. Playing a game in general is pretty much wasting time, unless you happen to be a game developer or studying to become one, in which case it could be considered research I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-Shock View Post
    Are we assuming it's a 1 week lockout on gear for Crystal tower? Or was that confirmed somewhere?
    It was confirmed in an interview with Famitsu. I don't know why I try to give logic to the angry drunks on these forums (example being OP's reply to my post). CT will not have a Weekly Lockout on entering, just a weekly lock out on loot once you have obtained a piece.
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    Because not everyone has a full coil set yet? Because not everyone's even -at- Coil yet? Because some of us have a life outside game that invovles work, school, kids, significant others, ect that disallows us the ability to run WP/AK 50 times in a week, and we're lucky if we get 1-2 runs a day in? Because some folks decided they were going to pursue crafting/gathering for awhile instead of tome grind? Because some of us would like the extra practice (not to mention better gear) before trying to to take on coil? Because the game's development doesn't revolve around hardcore raiders alone?

    I'm sure folks can think of more.
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