Using Stoneskin as a paladin, should you have it?

[saber_alter]

yes. makes healers job easier during hard hitting boss fights (really helped with caduceus)

i think recommended for paladin cross class is: foresight, stoneskin, mercy stroke, fracture(?), bloodbath(?). (fracture and bloodbath are interchangeable i recall)

[ZeusLaser]

That's a good point!

[ZeusLaser]

Awesome point, Wonka! The cross class abilities are limited atm!

[Lucke]

I have it, but hardly use it. Most DDs ride their enmity threshhold. If I stop my enmity combo to cast stoneskin, I'll lose hate. Any SCH worth their salt will use Stoneskin and Adlo-whatever to keep me pretty much perma stoneskin'd.

[zdub303]

I'm glad I have it, but with a 2s cast time there aren't a lot of situations where I generally use it. Still, its probably our most powerful cross class skill (with how weak foresight is)

[Marxam]

stoneskin for paladins = swiftcast for DoM

You need to have it and why not use it when you can easily recover mp from riot blade?

@zdub303; it takes 3 seconds for titan to cast his plumes and in that time he's NOT attacking you. Use that time to get rock hard!

[xcifux]

I'm a new paly and have thought about this alot. Stoneskin is a great skill for end game. My FCs ot is a warrior who currently caps around 8-9k hp. We all know warriors have mitigation issues and probably always will else what's the point of being a paladin? During coil the mt and ot have moments where they need to back up / wait for a small period of time. If the mt is a paly then casting stoneskin on a warrior would help a grap ton. Most end game warriors are 8-10k hp it seems to me that casting SK on them helps them mitigate 8-10k dmg. In my book that's huge not only in a oh shit situation, but a helping the healers conserve mana one.

[Shenon]

It can be a great boon proving you know when to use it. Here are some scenarios I utilize Stoneskin.

-When Titan/Ifrit Jumps
-When Garuda is traveling to you after warping
-Casting on yourself and the other tank when switching during Turn 2 of Coil
-Off Tank throwing it up on everyone after the wyverns in Turn 5 of Coil, making the first Fireball more sustainable.
-MT/OT throwing it up right before Twintania uses Death Sentence.

Pretty much those, and
- If you have a SCH in the Group ,and doesn´t have that Skill (happens often in DF Groups...),for example in AK. Casting that on the Wall on everyone or before big Pulls can help a little.

[Kaonis]

I currently use it after the tank swap on turn 2 so I don't pull threat off the other tank when he is trying to pick it up. It's also a decent little buff to help healing out a little bit. Not a lot, but it's better than doing nothing.

[Steeled]

I help friends garuda farm in pugs and occasionally get terrible healers that panic when the adds come out. I'll generally pop a cd and start spamming stoneskin. It has saved my bacon a few times when one healer was trying to manage two tanks and HG wasn't available.

But yeah, pld's cross class selection is pretty awful but stoneskin is probably the second most important ability you can equip (after foresight) so even if PLD had a better selection, stoneskin is staying for a while.