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    Zdenka Vaera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Don't a lot of groups get it down during the second repel cast or sooner? Not sure I'd call an extra 10 seconds or so past that "ridiculous dps."
    A lot of it still depends on how much damage the healer and tank are doing.

    2x MNK or MNK+SMN I have had my quickest Demon Wall kills; though it could have easily been any combo of 2 jobs. Don't leave out how much the non-DPS roles are providing. We have beat it a few times where the healer never even needed to heal.

    A LS member has also beat AK with 4x SMN entirely almost 2 months ago now; that was probably an insanely quick kill of Demon Wall.
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    Last edited by Zdenka; 11-23-2013 at 01:58 PM.

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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    A lot of it still depends on how much damage the healer and tank are doing.
    Fair enough. I mean, that's why I pop Foe's regardless of what the other DD is; I assume the healer will be dps'ing. At the same time, in the absence of information on what the tank/healer were doing, all I can tell is that the group's dps overall was only medium. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    Yes and No. Now that I have relic +1 I always tell my healer to not heal me and just heal the dps and more often than not, we burn down the boss and I just grab both adds and take them to the sides and continue to dps the boss. Only do this if you have at least 2 relics in your party.
    There is nothing to tank on this fight except the adds. If people are not standing in stuff they shouldn't be there is very little damage going out on this fight up until the adds.
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Don't a lot of groups get it down during the second repel cast or sooner? Not sure I'd call an extra 10 seconds or so past that "ridiculous dps."
    Maybe! But my point is its not like monks are bad at demon wall.

    Even dragoons only lose less than 10% of their dps, even if it feels like much more.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Ifrit + DL should probably get around 170 on Demon Wall.

    You can flank Demon Wall. Just stand towards its sides. Pretend the center of Demon Wall is the head sticking out.
    I used to do that, until he started sneezing me off sideways unless i made it out of the target ring before the Repel. Now i just punch him in the face. Its less DPS for sure, but far safer. Still kill it right as the bees spawn, so /meh lol
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Worst-case scenario, if you're on Coeurl form and need to brace for Repel, you could always use Rockbreaker: 130 potency instead of 100 from an unflanked Snap.
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    Worst-case scenario, if you're on Coeurl form and need to brace for Repel, you could always use Rockbreaker: 130 potency instead of 100 from an unflanked Snap.
    Snap is 140 potency from unflanked though.
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    Oh fuck, this is even worse than the time I learned Berserk gave Wrath.
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