DRGs need a silence too!

[Akirakogami]

eh maybe. I don't think dragoons should be trusted with a stun, switch it to silence for no reason.

It was an interesting decision to require silence during that segment.

[Bardo]

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

Yep.
Unless all of your experience revolves around ilvl 70 geared players running Titan, in which case there might be some irony.

(Bard lags behind the top DPS classes by upwards of 20% in later content as median gear levels approach ilvl90)

[Leon_Stormrage]

Am I the only one who sees the irony here?

If you say it because I am Bard, I need to let you know that we are not OP. We are desirable because we have utility and good damage but this is going to change and I think that will be good, but the most of the dragoon post asking for things are a little ridiculous... I will be glad if the people stop stacking one class and let an spot for dragoon and monks, is incredible helpful one drgoon in the party! And not for the buff but yes for the great damage that they have, the dragoon on my coil group always parse more than 250

[Remn]

Double BRD is not require for T2, Hex you can run it with no BRD. I ran T2 with 2 PLD work just fine, in Fact it simplify thing. Most of the time Tank swapping happen after HV Silent. (with the exception of ADS, but that not really and issue.

[PArcher]

Yep.
Unless all of your experience revolves around ilvl 70 geared players running Titan, in which case there might be some irony.

(Bard lags behind the top DPS classes by upwards of 20% in later content as median gear levels approach ilvl90)

If only your role was straight-up DPS like mine is...you'd have an argument then. No, you're needed thanks to your utility; if anything, your DPS probably should fall more so that people will take other DPS on raids rather than stack BRD.

And yes, I know you don't need double BRD in Coil, just like you don't need double PAL...just makes things easier in certain situations.

[Leon_Stormrage]

If only your role was straight-up DPS like mine is...you'd have an argument then. No, you're needed thanks to your utility; if anything, your DPS probably should fall more so that people will take other DPS on raids rather than stack BRD.

And yes, I know you don't need double BRD in Coil, just like you don't need double PAL...just makes things easier in certain situations.

I need to disagree, the Bard dps doesn't need to fall more. Is like "the bard dps should fall because this way the mediocre dragoons can have an spot" and this doesn't work. So, decrease the bard damage so we can have an spot to the dragoon that have bad dmg and all wipe in ADS YAY!

[Ronzeru]

Even tho we don't need one, it wouldn't kill for us to have one. In fact, it'd make more sense. Monks have one, but for them its more of a hassle due to their rotations. Plus for them to focus on silencing over greased lightning, their dps loss would be worse than ours, if we were the ones to have a usable at the ready silence instead. 'That' would be the good reason enough for us to be the melee with silence to begin with.

[PArcher]

I need to disagree, the Bard dps doesn't need to fall more. Is like "the bard dps should fall because this way the mediocre dragoons can have an spot" and this doesn't work. So, decrease the bard damage so we can have an spot to the dragoon that have bad dmg and all wipe in ADS YAY!

Lol, its hard to say who is mediocre and who is not when groups don't give even Allagan-equipped DRG a chance.

Until BRD gets a nerf, it doesn't make sense to take a positional into certain fights when you can bring double BRD and make it easier.

And I would love to see you try to get into groups as a DRG...if you even bother to level it for BFB (yeah...no BFB on you? That's just...wow...)

[Genesiser]

This reminds me of when I played SWOTR. I played a commando and they were if I recall, the only dps that didn't have a silence. Of course, commandos wanted one because silencing an enemy can be very helpful to the group. People that didn't play commandos said, "You don't need one, just have someone else silence. They didn't give commando one for a reason." Well long story short, they ended up giving commandos a silence. Did anything change in group dynamics? Were different classes excluded in raiding content because commandos could now silence? No. Nothing changed except for the fact that groups had another person that could silence. So basically, there's no point in saying drg shouldn't get one because all it would do is make group content have another person of any class be able to help interrupt attacks.

[EasymodeX]

Hmmm ... wrong birds with wrong stones.

Generally speaking, the entire "silence is mandatory" + "only Bards and Paladins can silence" (with a side of Monk) is kind of silly, but is not an inherently major problem, since you sort of always want a PLD+BRD in an 8-man.

Adding a silence to DRG would improve DRG utility, but not in any major or meaningful way, IMO. I'd much prefer a buff to DRG utility via something -- anything -- else, like a group damage buff or enemy damage debuff. Silence, as annoying as it is, is already sufficiently covered for groups.

Basically, make feint work on bosses, and since it doesn't (and the fact that Feint working on bosses is a bad idea / balance problem), make it into a more generic/useful debuff that actually works on bosses. For example, have Feint inflict a 5% damage debuff (for all damage types). This would require maintenance by the DRG but offer a group damage boost.

I mean, that's about the most uncreative and generic offensive utility that I could possibly think of, but it's better than getting a silence.