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    Cegiana's Avatar
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    Kamelia Aegis
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    Arcanist Lv 77

    What happened to gear and weapon stats?

    I was looking at some old 1.0 to 1.23 screenshots that I had taken and I saw something that I had forgotten. The stats for weapons/gear in 1.23 were actually useful. Forget 1.0 cause those stats were almost as bad as ARR stats, but stats in 1.23 actually helped your job. There were healing boosts, big MP and HP boost, boost for specific job abilities, damage boosts that actually made a difference. Plus Unique/Untradable weapons/gear (especially the higher level ones) had stats that destroyed what is sold in the marketboards, unlike ARR where marketboard gear is actually better than most unique/untradable gear.

    What happened? 1.0 stats were so bad so they completely fixed it by 1.23 and now with ARR the stats are actually worse than 1.0..............

    Don't do what I did, compare my highend gear in ARR to the medium to highend gear in 1.23 and now I absolutely hate all the gear I have in ARR...
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    DeceptionsWrath's Avatar
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    Anita Rathkamp
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    While i didn't play 1.0 or 1.23, i did notice SE is very careful to not make things overpowered in FFXIV ARR, almost too careful. Like most of the abilities you use, are like 10-15 seconds with a minute cool down. Same goes for potions, the stat boosting potions only last 15 seconds. And even the food is only 3-8% boost? Hardly even noticeable. SE really needs to go back through and rebalance everything now since the game is out and most of the major issues are worked out. Well all but the lag/delay but i'll leave that for another topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath View Post
    While i didn't play 1.0 or 1.23, i did notice SE is very careful to not make things overpowered in FFXIV ARR, almost too careful. Like most of the abilities you use, are like 10-15 seconds with a minute cool down. Same goes for potions, the stat boosting potions only last 15 seconds. And even the food is only 3-8% boost? Hardly even noticeable. SE really needs to go back through and rebalance everything now since the game is out and most of the major issues are worked out. Well all but the lag/delay but i'll leave that for another topic.
    Yeah, I see what you mean, I dont even see a reason to use a potion nor an ether (nor can I grasp why we cant raise people in battle, that's doable in every FF game, even old FFXIV.)

    Things need to be useful, not just a slight improvement over the previous piece of gear. Same applies for food/medicines/etc...

    Eh whatever, still a fun game, but can definitely be improved.
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    Xia Lin
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    I would definitely like to see a return of more interesting stats.
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    I agree 100%. I didn't play 1.23 either but I have looked at different armor stats and they are much more appealing.
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    Xatsh Vei
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    This is something SE really really needs to bring back.

    The strait linear progression of stats is honestly bad in almost every way. Sure it is easier to balance. But screw balance honestly if it is going to cause lack of variety. Not worth it.
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    Cesil Rapture
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    Sargatanas
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    I hope they do bring this back eventually. They can still keep things balanced while giving us more stats!
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    Tele Nariel
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    PvE balance is the flag the team has waved about this. It also goes with the inability to change equipment in combat.
    The team has also mentioned not wanting people to be forced to use a specific piece of gear for a unique bonus. I'm not sure how successful this has been, as we don't currently have a variety of equipment to chose from (visually or with "generic" stats) even at cap.
    (Artifact) (1-star / Palace / Amdapor) (2-star / Darklight) (...) (Mythic / Coil)
    I'm not going to say if you're not using potions / food you're a bad player. Content isn't designed to need it. That being said potions / ethers / elixers DO help at certain points during the game, and the BiS equipment sets you see posted often include using Accuracy boosting food for Coil 4/5.
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    it is funny how they say "we didn't want to make people feel forced to use a certain piece of gear for a specific unique bonus" so instead we get "everyone actually is forced to use a certain piece of gear because it's just flat out better in every way"

    it's like a way worse situation hah, overpowered special bonuses are easy to tune later on anyways if they felt like it
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    As it is right now, I don't feel compelled to upgrade my Amdapor Keep gear. Grind all day so I get +3 intelligence, +2 spell speed... hooray. (lol)
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