PUG/MNK Optimization

[DrakonMacar]

Howdy folks it's me, Drakon, your relatively unknown but now favorite not-exactly-friendly-but-still-entertaining Adamantoise dwelling Puncher of Things!

Taken from my recent blog post (character/2376683/blog/520223/), I'm coming here to see what everyone has to say about current DPS, specifically I am looking to my fellow Monks and Pugilists for some more insight into rotations and play styles/habits. In the meantime I'm working on balancing TP regen with my skill speed.

My current build concept is going to include the potential to stack all slots with a grand total of 60 melded Materia for every armor and accessory spot.

At this point that I begin to hesitate (at least until PVP rolls out). For the time being, stocking up on HQ Gryphonskins+Avengers are high on my priority list.

What I would like is feedback and insight from you my dear readers. What is it that you want from a DPS in your party or what you as a DPS strive towards while playing.

[Riot55]

Don't go overboard with HQ Gryphonskin, and especially don't get the Avengers. They are way too weak compared to how easy getting your Relic weapon is, and it's better. Consider getting the Gryponskin Chest to tide you over until you can buy the myth, and maybe the boots or something since those are in turn 4, and maybe a gryphonskin ring, but that's all I would recommend. They're simply too costly to properly 5-meld unless you plan on using it for a long time. If you are sure you're not going to have a Coil group for a month or so, or you're not getting your 300 myth tomes per week, then go for it, but make smart decisions with what pieces you get. Check the Binding Coil loot guide for Monk gear drops (and don't forget, we can wear Dragoon Allagan accessories), and avoid stuff you're just gonna replace quickly.


Anyways here's my current character: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2253344/

[Zigkid3]

If you would like to find the BiS gear for monk using relic+1/allagan weapon/allagan gear/myth gear/food buffs for accuracy/whatever acc cap you want, you can refer to here to find the best end game gear combination:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/115757-Gearing-Your-Monk-in-iLvl-90-Gear-A-Discussion
to view it:
https://docs.google.com/a/csu.fullerton.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjU8MT38WqyMdGFOMml1QjRtNDVUVVExb2ltLTMtV0E#gid=0
to download and run the solver yourself with your own requirements and weights:
https://www.dropbox.com/home/public%20monk%20gear%20set

My trash rotation:
blood for blood+internal release (use howling fist)+perfect balance => spam rockbreaker

In general if it's 3+ mobs you can hit, spam rockbreaker as much as possible. you'll be doing so much dps you'll keep stealing aggro from the tank!
If it's 2 mobs, i like to put demolish+fracture on the nonmarked mob to spread DoTs for more dps.

single target/on boss:
DK>twin>snap punch>perfect balance> snap punch 2x>blood for blood> demolish>fracture>ToD>internal release>DK (now w/ debuff)>twin>snap>bootshine> impulse drive 2x>demo>fracture>DK>twin>snap>boot>impulse drive 2x>twin>demo>frac>ToD

in general

[Arkista]

Depends on your goals. Do you want to do coils weekly or do you want to just play casual? If you plan on doing Coils then getting HQ ilvl70 gear is nice to hold you over until you get a mix of Allagan and Relic. But if you are just going to play casual then Darklight will be just fine while you wait the many weeks to buy Relic gear.

[Zigkid3]

I don't recommend gryphon skin HQ with melds. Sure, they may be stronger than darklight, but it costs a TON, only to be replaced with allagan/myth later.

[DrakonMacar]

The goal is not about what I am running but what I can over all put out. My intentions are to "break the game"; Disregarding Myth Tomes and Coil to further test other theories I have.

Cost isn't going to be that big of a problem since I can <14 WP for Tomes to turn around and Mat sell to crafters to supplement my own income.

With my alt account build, when skill speed hits 600, TP will vanish dramatically, even with Invigorate at the ready and Bard buffs present. My trade off thus far has been increased crowd control and devastating burst DPS on bosses (Most recent chain for test char; 10 snap punch combo (437, 389, 506, 513, 399, 420, 411, 500, 461, 493) against ADS; Turn 1).

Right now his build is gryph. jerkin, pants, boots, af2 head, gloves and belt with gryph ring and wrist (Hero slaying everywhere else). My materia set up is only strength, skill speed and crit rate.

[Riot55]

LoL well I hate to break it to you, but you are not going to "break the game" with HQ gryphonskin stuff. It is hands down worse than ANY i90 slot. You can't materia in Strength at all, and there is a cap for Crit/SS/Det etc. for each piece so you can't just go crazy with all of them.

[DrakonMacar]

It would be nice if you would share what these caps are. If it's not obvious enough let me put it out there now that while I may have been hit level cap shortly after phase 4 and then release, I'm still learning the limitations on stats and attributes while I'm getting my free company members up in their levels.

This threads concept is to gather information on the limits and see where they can be pushed since I have been unable to find sufficient information on this matter.

Anyone else have something, preferably numbers?

[ElHeggunte]

Go be unproductive elsewhere.

This threads concept is to gather information on the limits and see where they can be pushed since I have been unable to find sufficient information on this matter.

Anyone else have something, preferably numbers?

So because he doesn't agree with you he's unproductive and shouldn't contribute to the conversation? Don't ask for insight and then get dismissive when they don't tell you want you want to hear.

He's right by the way, you won't be breaking anything in full HQ overmelded gryphonskin except for the bank.

[Zigkid3]

So because he doesn't agree with you he's unproductive and shouldn't contribute to the conversation? Don't ask for insight and then get dismissive when they don't tell you want you want to hear.

He's right by the way, you won't be breaking anything in full HQ overmelded gryphonskin except for the bank.

That's not what he said at all, you should reread it. he just said that he made this thread for the purpose of learning new stuff like this and that he would like to know what the actual numbers are. I don't know how in the hell you interpreted his post as calling someone unproductive and shouldn't contribute.

anyways OP, as for stat caps on melding, someone made a list for the ilevel 70 crafting equipment:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...HQ-craft-gears
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