thunder and swiftcast are the only ones that are useful coming from the Thaumaturge class. I dunno. I'll just be happy once the Archanist is level 50. I can take it to both sides of summoner and scholar immediately. Maybe its just that I realized after taking my Bard to 50, i have a lot more fun moving and doing DPS than standing there hoping i dont have to interrupt my cast to dodge an AOE who knows! Still got GLA, WAR, DRG,WHM,and MNK to do after these two get hopefully finished this weekend, so my opinion could very well still change!