Thread: WAR 2.1 Patch Notes

Time to convert to Pure STR.
Finally Storm Path will be useful.

Originally Posted by Gamemako

Storm's Path has nothing to do with this. It's an enemy damage debuff to compare to PLD's Rage of Halone debuff. If you want to compare total mitigation, then I'm going to have to start with that ~12% base advantage that PLD has without any abilities at all, just from blocking and Shield Oath over Defiance (post-buff). From Doctor Mog's sheet in p3, skill speed reductions with Greased Lighting are multiplicative with skill speed bonuses. It is unlikely that Fey Light behaves differently. You get 0.01 GCD reduction per 10.5 points on average (10/11 alternating) starting with -0.01 at 342. Getting 1.5s GCD with WAR is totally impossible; you would need 712 skill speed. MNK stack 491 just to get to 2.00 at 3 GL stacks.

Blocking is an probability mechanic. You only bother with it for looking at long term efficiency or at high rates for burst damage probability.

Additionally, I'm pretty confident his spread sheet is wrong. He made the same careless error I made (or at least would be amazed to find out I hadn't) in prior post so I don't think he tested but rather assumed. He's multiplying by .85 for Greased Lightning where he should divide by 1.15. Listening to his video, it didn't sound like he tested this. I suppose it's correct, but that would be a huge anomaly for an MMO.

Originally Posted by Coramac

Additionally, I'm pretty confident his spread sheet is wrong. He made the same careless error I made (or at least would be amazed to find out I hadn't) in prior post so I don't think he tested but rather assumed. He's multiplying by .85 for Greased Lightning where he should divide by 1.15. Listening to his video, it didn't sound like he tested this. I suppose it's correct, but that would be a huge anomaly for an MMO.

Fortunate for us, GCD values are displayed by the UI. This will be easy to test.

Originally Posted by Gamemako

Fortunate for us, GCD values are displayed by the UI. This will be easy to test.

Yea, it should be easy to test. I don't have a character who can test it though. A naked monk with 2.5 spd GCD should go to 2.13 or 2.12 at 3 Greased Lightning if it it's a straight reduction. It'd be 2.17 or 2.18 if it works the standard way. I'd be surprised if it didn't work the standard haste way, but there's a lot of weird mechanisms in this game.

Originally Posted by Hundred

Time to convert to Pure STR.
Finally Storm Path will be useful.

Storm's Path will be useful for the damage reduction mechanic. The miserable heal amount isn't getting buffed at all.

I am trying to understand the threat bonuses. I use my War in WP/AK because threat is so much easier with War. I use Pld when I need to survive/stun. Maybe so the combos that don't produce high threat are easier to use?

This are some really good changes and will really help the squishyness of War while not making it faceroll.

Originally Posted by Hundred

Im not going full STR for self heals, lol @ the thought.
Going full str, because WAR's mitigation is going to raise to the point that the VIT wont be necessary.

War HP is already so high that it is hard to justify putting points into Vit. With these changes that just enforces it more.

Originally Posted by Vmage

the fairy buff lowers my global from 2.44 to 2.33

Oh my, that's... pretty broken, haha. I can't imagine they would want it based on bonus only, but you are right that the numbers do suggest that it's tripling an existing bonus. I can fiddle with the magic version and see.

Originally Posted by Rochetm

War HP is already so high that it is hard to justify putting points into Vit. With these changes that just enforces it more.

WAR and PLD have identical eHP, and that isn't changing.