Thread: WAR 2.1 Patch Notes

insert paladin qq about how paladins are no longer viable and warriors are op.

Originally Posted by symba

insert paladin qq about how paladins are no longer viable and warriors are op.

I think I have seen more warriors complaining so far.

This actually looks... not horrible. I've been dreading finding out the changes for fear warrior would be over buffed and I'd be forced to play it. But... Idk, it looks pretty equitable. Seems like they've given it a lot of extra enmity though, I'm not super sure why.

Originally Posted by PiedPiper

Seems like they've given it a lot of extra enmity though, I'm not super sure why.

I think its so that Storm's Path and Storm's Eye can be used more freely, in addition to giving WAR the niche of "Snap Enmity" tank.

Originally Posted by Ehayte

I think its so that Storm's Path and Storm's Eye can be used more freely, in addition to giving WAR the niche of "Snap Enmity" tank.

We don't have damage problems while tanking (WARs already do more damage) so we can freely give up storm's eye for the bonus damage reduction provided by storm's path and still retain parity with a PLD tank.

I don't get the enmity increases at all. (nor the reduction in unchained cooldown)

Originally Posted by Giantbane

We don't have damage problems while tanking (WARs already do more damage) so we can freely give up storm's eye for the bonus damage reduction provided by storm's path and still retain parity with a PLD tank.

I don't get the enmity increases at all. (nor the reduction in unchained cooldown)

negligibly more damage yes, but paladin only have 1 combo to generate threat and reduce incoming damage not to mention fight or flight which is probably the best dps skill in the game (1/3 uptime, no drawback) so they are constantly generating more threat while taking less damage, but warrior has to weave miam combos in which would justify the enmity increase so they can SP -> SE -> BB without dps pulling too much aggro. Though you are probably right that the unchained CDR is not needed.

Originally Posted by Giantbane

We don't have damage problems while tanking (WARs already do more damage) so we can freely give up storm's eye for the bonus damage reduction provided by storm's path and still retain parity with a PLD tank.

I don't get the enmity increases at all. (nor the reduction in unchained cooldown)

Its not about damage, its about enmity. An overall enmity increase will allow you to swap out doing a BB combo to do a SP combo without losing too much ground on enmity.

Also, I think someone else quoted me and said something along the lines of asking me what Snap Enmity I was referring to. Welp...if you create aggro at a faster rate than your competitors, your initial attacks should be able to "snap" aggro onto you, and then allow you to sustain a lead.

Originally Posted by Ehayte

Its not about damage, its about enmity. An overall enmity increase will allow you to swap out doing a BB combo to do a SP combo without losing too much ground on enmity.

Also, I think someone else quoted me and said something along the lines of asking me what Snap Enmity I was referring to. Welp...if you create aggro at a faster rate than your competitors, your initial attacks should be able to "snap" aggro onto you, and then allow you to sustain a lead.

but is that really necessary? WAR wasn't having threat issues before, either. If you don't have to choose between SP, SE and lower enmity that seems like a little much.

Snap Enmity? Not sure what you mean. Its not like plds need dds to wait at all before engaging as is. Lob -> cos -> starting roh combo is enough to hold off any opening spell or attack.


I am nervous about the up time on the 6% damage reduction though. That seems... awful strong. Really it seems more like a pld skill. I'd rather it be another 6% to healing.