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    so it only takes 2 weeks to get a relic+1 now, sheesh it sure is a dafug moment for those who went through the effort and trouble to get myth gear pre 2.1

    there was talk in the past about the game's direction killing the motivation for veterens to take part in end game actively, its starting to dawn on me that there might be truth in it as everyone can now get level 90 gear easily and quickly, rendering the dedication put in by veterens moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    so it only takes 2 weeks to get a relic+1 now, sheesh it sure is a dafug moment for those who went through the effort and trouble to get myth gear pre 2.1

    there was talk in the past about the game's direction killing the motivation for veterens to take part in end game actively, its starting to dawn on me that there might be truth in it as everyone can now get level 90 gear easily and quickly, rendering the dedication put in by veterens moot.
    I don't see how that hurts us in any way.
    If they said they reduce the cost of T2 I'd agree but that isn't happening.
    So now I can start to gear my other jobs, I can live with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    I don't see how that hurts us in any way.
    If they said they reduce the cost of T2 I'd agree but that isn't happening.
    So now I can start to gear my other jobs, I can live with that.
    Having more ways to earn myth and a faster way to get AF2 spits in the face of those who had the dedication to cap them weekly and to attain them.

    Myth gear being on the same gear tier as Allagan is a good alternative to farming coil but it should still be coveted and be relatively tedious to get, not easier and faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Having more ways to earn myth and a faster way to get AF2 spits in the face of those who had the dedication to cap them weekly and to attain them.

    Myth gear being on the same gear tier as Allagan is a good alternative to farming coil but it should still be coveted and be relatively tedious to get, not easier and faster.
    You had your gear months before anybody else. There's your victory. *throws confetti at you*

    Now it's time to allow other players to enjoy aspects of the game at their own pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    You had your gear months before anybody else. There's your victory. *throws confetti at you*

    Now it's time to allow other players to enjoy aspects of the game at their own pace.
    Don't mistake my opinions as simply trying to bar players from accessing content, CT was supposed to provide gear to do BC and Myth gear are supposed to be an alternative to that but at the cost of being slow and tedious.

    This does not limit new players to content but allowing them to get top level gear easier and faster certainly does us no good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Don't mistake my opinions as simply trying to bar players from accessing content, CT was supposed to provide gear to do BC and Myth gear are supposed to be an alternative to that but at the cost of being slow and tedious.

    This does not limit new players to content but allowing them to get top level gear easier and faster certainly does us no good.
    Yes, CT will provide players with gear that is lower tiered than coil loot, which is totally fine. Increasing the tome limit doesn't spit in the face of players who capped out at 300 every week, because you're also allowed to hit that 450 limit, still putting you ahead of them. All this does is allow for more tomes to be acquired at one time. Everybody wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Yes, CT will provide players with gear that is lower tiered than coil loot, which is totally fine. Increasing the tome limit doesn't spit in the face of players who capped out at 300 every week, because you're also allowed to hit that 450 limit, still putting you ahead of them. All this does is allow for more tomes to be acquired at one time. Everybody wins.
    Players who farmed AK pre 2.1 for Mythology will take 1 month longer than players in 2.1 for 5/5 Mythology gear

    a 1 month difference is rather significant

    I just feel that highest tiered gears should not be easily and quickly attainable, it should require significant amount of time and effort invested into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    Having more ways to earn myth and a faster way to get AF2 spits in the face of those who had the dedication to cap them weekly and to attain them.

    Myth gear being on the same gear tier as Allagan is a good alternative to farming coil but it should still be coveted and be relatively tedious to get, not easier and faster.
    They do that so new players can catch up faster, by the time 2.1 is released everyone should be fully decked already.
    So I still fail to see the problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    They do that so new players can catch up faster, by the time 2.1 is released everyone should be fully decked already.
    So I still fail to see the problem with that.
    The problem is that it messes with gear progression paths, currently it is AF > AK/WP > DL > CT (supposedly) > BC/Mythology

    but making it easier and faster to get Mythology gear makes it AF > DL > Mythology or even AF > Mythology

    I'm not against players getting gear easier and faster but certainly not the top tiered gears
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    The problem is that it messes with gear progression paths, currently it is AF > AK > DL > CT (supposedly) > BC

    but making it easier and faster to get Mythology gear makes it AF > DL > Mythology or even AF > Mythology

    I'm not against players getting gear easier and faster but certainly not the top tiered gears
    In that case the problem doesn't even lie in the weekly cap that is being raised but the whole token system itself.
    We get i90 gear from tokens, if it's all about progression it should not be higher than 80 to do coil with and gear there.
    The cap itself is not the dealbreaker, now I can start gearing my second class faster and new players can catch up quicker.
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