Yoshida on Tomestone changes!

[Leadros]

Casuals can do -> primals -> CT -> coil. While "hardcores" do primals - > coil - > wait 3 months.

So why not make CT harder and have both parties go the same path in progression? i really dont get it why they release the hard instance at first and then put in a way to get gear for coil, when coil is already possible and done with darklight and AF2.

[KiriA500]

I have no illusions about time not being difficulty which is exactly why I've mentioned that Myth gears are a good alternative to BC gear albeit taking a tedious and lengthy path and as such requires the dedication to do so.

Yes. It's a system that took out all the bullcrap we dealt with in FFXI of going weeks and months getting absolutely nothing to show for our work (which also wasn't hard, it was just SUPER TEDIOUS BULLCRAP...bee tee dub). Now, we can work toward equipment while still having a goal of getting the best.

I honestly cannot fathom how anybody can see this as a bad thing...

[ashikenshin]

And wherever you came from probably doesn't read and comprehend arguments but would rather prefer making generic stereotypical remarks.

OMG slap in the face! hahahaha running an instance 10 times on monday doesn't equal dedication. What are you going on about dude? Because this will happen with every patch and every expansion. Your precious "hours of dedication" will go to waste with new gear. Are you new to MMOs? I read your argument and think it's stupid, sue me

[Lord_Zlatan]

Problem is, it doesn't seem like there are any new higher tiered gear to attain in 2.1

CT, being a dungeon of lower tier than Coil will probably not drop gear better than Allagan or myth (same gear tier as Allagan)

Perhaps new gear from Extreme Primals? He says there will be new gear from EM primals

[ReiszRie]

OMG slap in the face! hahahaha running an instance 10 times on monday doesn't equal dedication. What are you going on about dude? Because this will happen with every patch and every expansion. Your precious "hours of dedication" will go to waste with new gear. Are you new to MMOs? I read your argument and think it's stupid, sue me

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[Visan]

so it only takes 2 weeks to get a relic+1 now, sheesh it sure is a dafug moment for those who went through the effort and trouble to get myth gear pre 2.1

The playtime it takes to get level 90 gear is the same. One still needs to put in the same amount of effort to get it as before, the difference is that they will be able to get more work done in one week. The requirements for getting this gear is not changing, so it is not becoming easier.

This update probably favors veteran or "hardcore" players. The difficult part of capping myth is time constraints. Casual players don't play as often and are having a harder time meeting the 300 cap. They are not likely running WP in under 15 minutes. Most of them are using DF, aren't geared as well as vets, and are running into elitists who won't play with them because they don't have a relic +1.

[ReiszRie]

Yes. It's a system that took out all the bullcrap we dealt with in FFXI of going weeks and months getting absolutely nothing to show for our work (which also wasn't hard, it was just SUPER TEDIOUS BULLCRAP...bee tee dub). Now, we can work toward equipment while still having a goal of getting the best.

I honestly cannot fathom how anybody can see this as a bad thing...

The issue as i've mentioned, is that Myth gear are the best, and there ss nothing more to look forward to after getting it, unless they increase the stats on Allagans.

I have no issue if this is DL gears being made cheaper as DLs are required to participate in many other end game contents but Myth gears are literally the ultimate gear and I hope you can see my point.

[Felis]

I think I like this. I think I might also hate this.

If the cap increase translates to 5 more WP runs a week, this update would be a joke that just sinks the game further into a daily routine grind.

Only if you want to do 5 more WP runs each week. There are more tome source coming with 2.1

[Felis]

Right there isn't. A FC with 24 players in full 90 gear will find CT a joke once they know mechanics. Still you can obtain the CT gear first because of this, the value of the CT gear will be the look not the item 80 level.

Which FC have 24 man with all jobs full equiped with 90 gear?
Even if someone have 1 or 2 jobs full equiped with 90 gear, the chance is high that more than 3 jobs from his character have only ilevel 70 gear. And then they run CT with these jobs who have only ilevel 70 gear. Or run CT with the ilevel 90 gear jobs to earn ilevel80 gear for their ilevel70 gear jobs.

[Ryios]

We cap myth on monday night now in about 1.5 hours... Just doing 2/4 turns of BCB and Garuda Farm. We have killed garuda in 3:28 (3 minutes 28 seconds) which is 180 myth an hour..

I'm pretty excited for the upcoming changes, I just hope they raise the cap to something reasonable, not something low like 350... trolllolol.. Imo 495 to 900 would be reasonable.