Yoshida on Tomestone changes!

[ReiszRie]

so it only takes 2 weeks to get a relic+1 now, sheesh it sure is a dafug moment for those who went through the effort and trouble to get myth gear pre 2.1

there was talk in the past about the game's direction killing the motivation for veterens to take part in end game actively, its starting to dawn on me that there might be truth in it as everyone can now get level 90 gear easily and quickly, rendering the dedication put in by veterens moot.

[Evangela]

As if new players will not exist after patch 2.1...

why we have to wait for the casuals?

[Itachi]

I LOVE those changes

[Yashnaheen]

I like how he actually acknowledged community feedback, gave reasoning, numbers and how the new content and changes will effect our concerns.

Like the patch or not, they are starting to communicate better with us.

[Atreides]

so it only takes 2 weeks to get a relic+1 now, sheesh it sure is a dafug moment for those who went through the effort and trouble to get myth gear pre 2.1

there was talk in the past about the game's direction killing the motivation for veterens to take part in end game actively, its starting to dawn on me that there might be truth in it as everyone can now get level 90 gear easily and quickly, rendering the dedication put in by veterens moot.

I don't see how that hurts us in any way.
If they said they reduce the cost of T2 I'd agree but that isn't happening.
So now I can start to gear my other jobs, I can live with that.

[Pseudopsia]

so it only takes 2 weeks to get a relic+1 now, sheesh it sure is a dafug moment for those who went through the effort and trouble to get myth gear pre 2.1

there was talk in the past about the game's direction killing the motivation for veterens to take part in end game actively, its starting to dawn on me that there might be truth in it as everyone can now get level 90 gear easily and quickly, rendering the dedication put in by veterens moot.

Better get used to it. It's going to be a never ending cycle of new gear to obtain and old gear becoming easier to obtain. What Veteran players get out of it is they obtain the gear first, so show it off while it's hot, then do it all over again with next patch. What veteran players can do in patch 2.1 is get full set of CT gear first and strut their stuff in Ul'dah.

[ReiszRie]

I don't see how that hurts us in any way.
If they said they reduce the cost of T2 I'd agree but that isn't happening.
So now I can start to gear my other jobs, I can live with that.

Having more ways to earn myth and a faster way to get AF2 spits in the face of those who had the dedication to cap them weekly and to attain them.

Myth gear being on the same gear tier as Allagan is a good alternative to farming coil but it should still be coveted and be relatively tedious to get, not easier and faster.

[ReiszRie]

Better get used to it. It's going to be a never ending cycle of new gear to obtain and old gear becoming easier to obtain. What Veteran players get out of it is they obtain the gear first, so show it off while it's hot, then do it all over again with next patch. What veteran players can do in patch 2.1 is get full set of CT gear first and strut their stuff in Ul'dah.

Problem is, it doesn't seem like there are any new higher tiered gear to attain in 2.1

CT, being a dungeon of lower tier than Coil will probably not drop gear better than Allagan or myth (same gear tier as Allagan)

[Freakiie]

As if new players will not exist after patch 2.1...

why we have to wait for the casuals?

Because leaving the casuals behind would be mean!

I'm also not a big fan of the whole "Everyone should run around in the best gear there is" mentality myself. The irony in it is that the Coil lockout is a bigger gap between "casuals" and "hardcores" than gear ever will be, for the simple reason that you can only run with 1 group anyway. If you could do it more than once people might actually bother running with people outside their static group, rather than having a set group and only going with new people if one of your party members can't make it for some reason (and even then they generally got a "pool" of subs, rather than taking someone they never ran with before).

In the end it's not because of gear that people will be "locked" out of content, but simply because there is no place in the static groups so they can't gain any experience. Allow people to run Coil more than once and there will be people that take their time to help out new players in Coil. Claiming it can be abusable is not a reason not to do it. Everything can be abused, is that a reason not to implement it? No. It's up to the devs to implement it in a way that minimizes abuse, while making sure as many of the benefits are kept as possible.

[KiriA500]

Having more ways to earn myth and a faster way to get AF2 spits in the face of those who had the dedication to cap them weekly and to attain them.

Myth gear being on the same gear tier as Allagan is a good alternative to farming coil but it should still be coveted and be relatively tedious to get, not easier and faster.

You had your gear months before anybody else. There's your victory. *throws confetti at you*

Now it's time to allow other players to enjoy aspects of the game at their own pace.