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    Shenrais's Avatar
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    Shenrais Raizal
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    Cerberus
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    Alchemist Lv 50

    Help in Coil turn 4(Scholar tank healing)

    I recalled a thread I saw about turn 4. And they used the strat of having the scholar on the dreadnaught tank and the WHM on the add tank( we are doing two dreadnaughts)


    For some reason, I have trouble keeping our dreadnaught tank up, even when one dreadnaughts up(me solo healing him) I just do very little healing to the paladin tank compared to the warrior tank. I just don't understand why I have trouble healing him at this point.(We kind of forgot to use the usaul eye for an eye and virus debuffs) but I assume that's for two adds.

    I need advice and help please.
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    Nullie's Avatar
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    Ishiene Phye
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Tanks taking two Dreads. There is of course a lot of damage. I personally heal the main tank who has the dreads. I don't seem to have a problem ever, but I play whm. I don't know if that factors. I suppose it is easier because I can use things like divine seal to increase the potency of my regens and cures. I already have eye for an eye and virus. Then I have PoM to speed up my casts if needed and a benediction for a last resort. Maybe you could possibly throw up Sacred Soil or have your whm try to get a divine seal + regen on the tank to help you out if possible. Or you could try switching tanks. Also, don't forget to use things like Lustrate for some quick healing.

    *edit* switching tanks as in who you are healing. Not who tanks what.
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    Jumpy Puppet
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    1. people will tell you that SCH should heal the WAR because lustrate scales better with their HP. this is true but more important is to have the healer with better gear (or skill) on the 2x dread tank.
    2. the P3 solo dread hits as hard, if not harder, than both P6 dreads because it is empowered. if you can solo heal through P3 you can solo heal through P6. of course neither P6 dread can eat spiders.
    3. you MUST remember to use your CDs and so does the rest of the party. BLMs, SMNs, SCHs, WHMs -- all should be using virus during P6, same with anyone who has eye. use them all during P3 dread and they will be back up by P6.
    4. what i do: try to keep 6 stacks going into P6. rouse, spam adlo & embrace on tank (manually healing with fairy is important). use lustrate when needed. drop a soil if you're willing to give up the lustrate stack. do whatever you can to keep tank alive; BRDs should be using ballad as you close out the phase so dont worry about MP, just about keeping tank up
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    Revii Lagoon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 62
    The main thing to realize about using sacred soil is that in order to get the most of it, it needs to absorb more damage than a single lustrate can heal for. For example, the tank would need to take over 12,000 base damage in 15 sec in order to negate around 1200 damage, about the average heal of lustrate on a PLD. Typically this is better in AOE situations or high burst situations, and not on only when a single target is taking damage. However P3 and P6 dreadnaught's are the one instance where their sustained damage will easily be over 12,000 damage within those 15 sec, so using Sacred Soil is better in those situations.
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    sharazisspecial's Avatar
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    Bunny Boo
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Use a virus and eye for an eye rotation. Use adloquium more. Save your fairy cooldowns for dread, pop a hq mind pot.
    Dont use all your cooldowns at once space them out ofc.

    Your tanks can alternate hallowed ground so 2 heals are healing 1 tank while other tank is taking zero dmg.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 11-19-2013 at 04:27 PM.

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    Pika Chu
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    You can try placing your fairy as such that only the Dreadnaught tank can be reached so it doesn't waste its time healing the other tank / raid. Also ask the tank to use his cooldowns when you run out of Aetherflow charges. Ask the WHM to throw a regen your way and maybe a heal or 2 if the tank dips.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Your tanks can alternate hallowed ground so 2 heals are healing 1 tank while other tank is taking zero dmg.
    This strategy makes the final phase a breeze if your DPS is strong enough.

    Pop Hallowed Ground first on whichever tank takes the most damage. If your OT is tanking 4 adds, he's first. If your MT is tanking 2 Dreads, he's first. This makes it so your healers have less a burden, minimizing the risk of aggro draw, and when both Hallowed Grounds are done there will be such little damage on both tanks you'll have no issues keeping them alive.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 11-19-2013 at 05:32 PM.

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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    We have our main tank tanking 2 DNs and SCH healing him. Right at the start of the last wave our main tank (and off tank if that's PLD too) will use Hallowed (MT uses Flash --> Circle of Scorn --> Hallowed, when Hallowed wears he uses tank LB, when that wears he uses Sentinel and other cooldowns). I'm WHM in this turn and usually use regen and occasional heals on MT too even though I'm focusing on OT.

    What's your kill order for this wave (as in how long will the MT have to tank the two DNs)? And do you feed any bugs to the DNs?
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    Last edited by Taika; 11-19-2013 at 07:54 PM.

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    Khyri Nhai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Make sure you're using Virus, Sacred Soil and Eye for an Eye appropriately. You have a lot of mitigation cooldowns at your disposal, and it's at critical moments where you need to be comfortable enough and mindful enough to use them on the fly. I will say, my last turn 4 run, I used Adloquium a lot more than I was used to, and while I felt a little mana starved at the end of the fight, I think that was just part of the chaos of a new group.

    Also, If you aren't directly controlling your faerie, make sure you place her closer to your tank than the other.
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    Aedra Laevatein
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    You can try check battle log, whether your Eos healed anyone else beside tank or not. If it does, I believe most SCH make a macro in their healing spell with embrace on same target.
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