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    HiddenBoss's Avatar
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    Ledger Sleven
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Somewhat Constant HQ Crafts Tips?

    After hitting 50 as a WAR, i decided that i wanted to work on blacksmithing so i can get through needing the weapon and melds for a relic weapon without needing someone else to do it for me. I just hit 35 and i feel i might have a small snag in this dream as everything i craft seems to wants to fight me tooth and nail not to become HQ items.

    Lately, i have been getting cross class skills and while it has made things better im still getting more NQ items than anything else. i've tried using food,upgraded my armor/accessories and tools but still nothing. So i have to ask, is there something i can do to help improve my odds on this? Anything that would help tip the scales in my favor will be appreciated.
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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    Meru Maru
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Getting Carpentry to 50 is the biggest hurdle to HQing. After that it's easy peasy (relatively).
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Byregot's Blessing is a godsend when it comes to HQing (see Jeykama's post). Other skills you should consider getting are Careful Synthesis II from 50 Weaver, Hasty Touch and Steady Hand II from 37 Chef, Comfort Zone from 50 Alchemist (not required but it saves CP costs for higher synths.) Ingenuity and/or Ingenuity II are great for Progress, and I've heard Innovation from Goldsmith is pretty great (working on getting this one right now)
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    Roth_Trailfinder's Avatar
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Forget all of that level 50 cross class skill stuff. Byregot's? Careful Synthesis 2? Comfort Zone? Forget those. You're still leveling your highest crafting class, those skills do not apply for you yet.

    The best advice I can give you is to bring all of your crafting/gathering classes up together, at least Goldsmithing, Weaving, Leatherworker, Carpenter. Armorer goes hand-in-hand with Blacksmithing, so include that as well. Basically, you are going to want stuff that they all make.

    Make your own crafting gear, and make sure to HQ it. That's where the Goldsmithing, Weaving, and Leatherworker come in. Carpenter .. that's more along the lines of Armorer - to make specific materials for you when you need them.

    Get all of the crafting skills to 15 to start, this gives you an excellent foundation of cross-class skills for your future endeavors. Culinary to 37 for Steady Hand 2 is STRONGLY recommended, but is not strictly speaking, required. Otherwise, just take each of the crafts I've mentioned that you are going to want up in five or ten level increments, using the Crafting Log, and then using Triple Leves when the Crafting Log does not suffice. By maintaining your set of crafting gear, you will have the stats necessary to get the recipes to HQ most of the time. When you hit a level that has a new piece of crafting gear from any of those four crafts, be sure to make it HQ, and to start to use it. You should be able to HQ 8/9 or 9/9 of all of your 25+ Triple Leve hand ins
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    XenabelleS's Avatar
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    Xenabelle Shadowsong
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Inner Quiet + Steady Hands + Hasty Touch is your friend.

    With those skills you can HQ more often than not even on same level recipes.

    So get CUL to 15. Then I'd recommend ALC for Tricks of the Trade which is the best way to restore CP.

    Once you get Great Strides and the 32 touch ability, it becomes even easier.
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    Githiun's Avatar
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    Githiun Smallsword
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I personally find myself not using Tricks of the trade much because you waste a Good condition. Sometimes on 80 dura i'll use it but for the most part I won't waste the boost in quality for only 20 cp.
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    It's not a waste really. A good condition gives you 150% quality which 3 stacks of Inner Quiet already gives you that on base control. 20 CP is huge for what sacrificing a Good condition do. Unless you know you won't need CP because you have an abundance of it or you have stack of Manipulation at maximum durability, it's usually a good idea to use Tricks of the Trade. Remember, the best quality skill, Byregot's Blessing only costs 24 CP so 20 CP is definitely not a waste. It could've let you mend one more time, or steady hands one more time or Byregot to increase crazy quality, or even using Standard Synthesis for 150% progress. You should get Culinary to 37 for Steady Hands II though.
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    Ledger Sleven
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Wasn't expecting to get much or any replies to this post but im glad i was wrong . Anyway, i have been using that Inner Quite + Steady Hands + Hasty Touch combo but i find myself running out of CP while the quality of the item is still pretty low.

    Every chance i get i throw out a Tricks of the Trade and if i get really desperate i use Rumination then reapply Inner Quiet and it never seems like i have enough CP to get 100% quality unless i get lucky with a excellent item condition. Am i doing something wrong,overlooking something small or has my luck with the RNG just been poor?
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 100
    Blacksmith seems like the optimal class to level first. It will afford you tools for all the other classes or most of them anyway but it's hands down the hardest class to level as a first class.

    Pretty much every tool needs parts from at least 3 or 4 classes. Lumber, leather, cloth, Glue and Plates being high on the list and the Blacksmith can't make any of those. That means you will need to buy them. Granted everyone is throwing the NQ versions away. You can get stacks of each on the marketboard for 2K gil or less. It just means you won't be getting as many HQ triple leve turn in's on this class. It's really about what you have more of at the moment. Time, gil or leve points.
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    With your amount of CP, you should be able to do 2 Master's Mend/Manipulation which should give you 6-7 Hasty Touch tries. Try keeping your CP enough for a Steady Hands + Great Strides + Standard Touch (86 CP) as that is more reliable finish than keep spamming Hasty Touch. I would suggest going Inner Quiet -> Steady Hands -> 2x Hasty Touch -> Manipulation -> 1x Hasty Touch -> 1x Basic Touch -> Steady Hands -> 1x Standard Touch -> Great Strides -> Standard Touch -> 1x Synthesis (meld 1CP to your gear as this requires 264 CP) or remove Basic Touch if you need 2 Synthesis. Level Culinary to 37 when you can for Hasty Touch II (3 more CP than I but 10% more success making Basic Touch 100%).
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