Retrograde Content

[DoctorPepper]

I understand that this will not be very beneficial to mains but I'm guessing that unless you're running in full ilvl90 already, which the majority aren't, then there will be at least a few pieces from CT that are still an upgrade for you. Even if you are full ilvl90 you'll have alternative content besides dungeons to work on your alts. I know alt classes don't appeal to everybody but as you said, you can lvl another job in about 1 week if you want to but at the end of the day you'll be locked out of myth/coil gearing up your main with it. I see what you're saying but this was pretty much developed at launch and simply held back due to delays/bugs, it's not like they had to design it from the ground up after release.

[Djeserit]

I'm not saying that CT is bad, it's good it's coming out, but I think it should be after coil or in between coil turns type of content. but it suppose to be before you do coil, and coil is already being beat left and right. I get that they will continue to add floors to crystal tower, to make it harder. Though to leave an important piece of content out for such a long time is a terrible idea.

The problem with this approach: say they added 6-10 on coil, and pushed CT back another patch, so "hardcores" had something to do in 2.1...

2.2 rolls around: "Everyone has finished Coil 1-10, add more coil, don't add CT yet!"

It would just snowball and they would end up scrapping CT completely. While that may appease the "hardcores", I would prefer a variety of endgame content (and a way to gear up alts to a reasonable level) as opposed to 1 raid for the foreseeable future.

Its really just something to do

Yep, that's exactly what Video Games are, just something to do. Maybe treat them as such?

[AnimaAnimus]

The problem with this approach: say they added 6-10 on coil, and pushed CT back another patch, so "hardcores" had something to do in 2.1...

Problem is Coil is not hardcore content. The only reason it seems that way now is because you need at minimum darklight and a relic but frankly that's not to hard to obtain, even for an extreme casual. It just may take them a few more weeks to be coil ready. And most ppl can master each coil turn in a night as long as they pay attn., maybe watch a vid or two before they start and coordinate a bit with their pt on ts or whatever. Calling coil hardcore content tho is like calling nyzul isle hardcore content. Its really just something to do until we get something better, which is also a reason so many ppl just log in to cap tomes and log out for the rest of the week.

[Molly_Millions]

Problem is Coil is not hardcore content. The only reason it seems that way now is because you need at minimum darklight and a relic but frankly that's not to hard to obtain, even for an extreme casual. It just may take them a few more weeks to be coil ready. And most ppl can master each coil turn in a night as long as they pay attn., maybe watch a vid or two before they start and coordinate a bit with their pt on ts or whatever. Calling coil hardcore content tho is like calling nyzul isle hardcore content. Its really just something to do until we get something better, which is also a reason so many ppl just log in to cap tomes and log out for the rest of the week.

The only reason Coil is "hardcore content" is because CT is currently missing. We should actually be grinding for DL gear in order to enter CT. Gear progression was meant to be as follows:

AF > WP > AK > DL > CT > Allagan and getting AF2 while working up to Allagan. This is fairly obvious by looking at the iLevels on current gear.

[Codek]

Some of us recognized this when CT was delayed. I for example, have been doing other things these past few months while I choose to ignore end game (being incomplete and all).

I personally can't wait! Yay!

[ashikenshin]

gearing up my monk and later my bard will be easier. Besides I want to get out of DL gear already and don't run coil yet.

[Estellios]

There are more than a few people in my FC that just reached 50 or are about to reach 50; Crystal tower is more than welcome. If by some miracle they get rid of the coil lockout, or even with the current lockout system in place, it would be nice to be decently geared on alt classes so people can sub in for different roles if necessary.

Also I may be using CT gear as an excuse to not get my Relic WHM pants because there's no way I'm running around in boxers till vanity slots come out.

[Orophin]

I knew there was a reason the OP was on my ignore list.

Anyway, everyone above mirrors my sentiments. Not everyone has blitzed through Coil so CT will have a lot to offer for those people, especially for alt class upgrades.

[Taaz]

Looking forward to doing crystal tower and working on housing myself, but I'm iffy about whether it'll be enough to hold us over till 2.2. Hopefully housing is really in depth and takes alot of time, or i'll be back to twiddling thumbs waiting for the next update

As for the population, it's pretty easy to see that the majority of people are at endgame already, simply looking at the zone density and dungeon timers clears that speculation up. The only lower level zones that are getting any action are the ones people are using to fate grind alts up, and dungeon timers for pre-50 dungeons are easily twice as long as endgame ones.

That shows 1 of 2 things
1. Fate grinding is completely out of control and even newbies are doing them to level their first class(unlikely)
or
2. Everyone is at endgame and just using them to grind alts up.

[Molly_Millions]

Even if I had all allagan gear for every job, I would still want to do CT. It'll be the first instance for more than 8 people.