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    vuduy's Avatar
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    One Mule
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    Level Sync broken past level 50

    One of the feature I like in this game is the level sync system. It allows players to play with friends who are different in levels as if they're in the same level range.

    This is fun because the experience is still challenging instead of being power-leveled through with a high level/geared character.

    However, for instances post level 50, this system is broken. The level sync only works with with character level and not item level.

    So in a dungeon with players wearing i90/Allagan gears selling or carrying other lower level gear players, this is destroying the game experience.

    Please fix the level sync system for 2.1 with the iLevel requirement for entry; there should be a iLevel cap sync for each instance as well.
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    Amelia Inverse
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    You have a problem that as a 50 in i70-90 armor i can help you clear a dungeon with out the need to die, and rage quit?
    Sure sure, am sure you have a valid point.... its just that i don't see it.
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    Miley Cyruuuus
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    no... just no...
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    Reis Heiral
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    This is such a great idea! Can't believe I never thought of this first..

    I mean, who wouldn't want their i90 relic+1 and allagan gear, which you spent time farming for, be synced down to i50 or i60 or whatever.

    /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlandeu View Post
    This is such a great idea! Can't believe I never thought of this first..

    I mean, who wouldn't want their i90 relic+1 and allagan gear, which you spent time farming for, be synced down to i50 or i60 or whatever.

    /sarcasm
    The same people who wouldn't want their level, which they spent time grinding for, to be synced down to 20 or 30 or whatever.

    If level is already being synced, why not ilvl as well? It makes little sense for such a feature to only be applied to early- to mid-game content and not end-game content as well. After all, I also want to be carried through Sastasha, Tam-Tara Deepcroft, Copperbell Mines, Halatali, Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak, Haukke Manor, Brayflox's Longstop, The Sunken Temple of Qarn, Cutter's Cry, The Stone Vigil, Dzemael Darkhold, and The Aurum Vale, but the game is telling me I can't be. Not fair.
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    Last edited by Schwerpunkt; 11-24-2013 at 02:36 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwerpunkt View Post
    The same people who wouldn't want their level, which they spent time grinding for, to be synced down to 20 or 30 or whatever.

    If level is already being synced, why not ilvl as well? It makes little sense for such a feature to only be applied to early- to mid-game content and not end-game content as well.
    So you say, if you enter a level50 instance, and your gear is over ilevel55, it should be synched to ilevel55?
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-24-2013 at 06:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    So you say, if you enter a level50 instance, and your gear is over ilevel55, it should be synched to ilevel55?
    I wouldn't say 55 exactly, but close enough that the content can still be somewhat challenging.

    The whole point of syncing levels was to keep higher level players from carrying lower level players through instances. They wanted the groups to have to work together, so it just doesn't make sense for all of that to be thrown out the window at level 50. Groups can still be carried because ilvl continues to grow even if level does not.

    Either it doesn't matter and level syncing should be done away with altogether.. Or it does matter and ilvl should be synced as well. You cannot justify one without also justifying the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwerpunkt View Post
    I wouldn't say 55 exactly, but close enough that the content can still be somewhat challenging.

    The whole point of syncing levels was to keep higher level players from carrying lower level players through instances. They wanted the groups to have to work together, so it just doesn't make sense for all of that to be thrown out the window at level 50. Groups can still be carried because ilvl continues to grow even if level does not.

    Either it doesn't matter and level syncing should be done away with altogether.. Or it does matter and ilvl should be synced as well. You cannot justify one without also justifying the other.

    Level sync was made so people could drop level to play with people who were LOWER level. Level 50 people are level 50 regardless of ilevel of equipment.
    Also @vuduy the title of this thread is totally wrong. Nothing is broken, just because you do not like something doesn't mean it is broken.
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    Last edited by Sixmp; 11-24-2013 at 09:42 AM.

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    Skadi Felis
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    The level requirement of a gear determines whether it get level-synced or not.
    Not the ilevel of a gear.

    You want your ilevel90 weapon level-synced down? Do level 10-40 content
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-23-2013 at 09:14 AM.

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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    I'd love an option like that, but...
    most people don't play for the challenge.
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